Coming on Lemmy and complaining in ShowerThoughts that there are too many Lemmy users complaining because there are too many Linux users is like going in to a brothel and complaining that there are too many hookers
More like going into a church and complaining there are too many hookers
More like going into a church and complaining that there are too many pedophiles.
I dunno man, you might be right cuz you’d probably be told to pipe it down
If every prostitute approached you and had to tell you how much better she is at something than your current SO/wife, you should ditch your SO in favor of prostitutes, even though you’re not there for service.
Then it would be like Lemmy.
even though you’re not there for service
I mean, it’s pretty weird for a person to hang out in a brothel and not expect a couple of sales pitches for their services. They kinda only do the one thing, why go there if you aren’t down for it?
Why come to lemmy if you’re not down for linux?
I dunno, maybe the brothel gas a restaurant with a good prime rib special.
Because the bar you’d normally go to removed all the comfortable chairs and started selling ad space directly in front of your face.
Ok, so I get you are still trying to make the analogy work, but this is like getting mad that your coffee shop sucks, deciding to go to the local car dealership for the free coffee instead, and then complaining that they keep trying to sell you cars.
This analogy is breaking down rapidly, that was my point. lol.
…except this isn’t explicitly a Linux website. Sure, it’s probably run by people who use it extensively and populated mostly by people who use it at least regularly… but it’s in no way a Linux dealership. I came here specifically because it wasn’t trying to sell me something.
If you’re trying to say that’s not the case, and that the fediverse only exists as a mechanism to sell people on linux… it might be time to give up on it, I suppose.
Nah, I’m not trying to give any commentary on Lemmy or Linux in this thread. I’m just talking about how poorly the analogy is lining up for the intended purpose. Honestly, Lemmy shouldn’t be pushing any one thing in general, imo.
I do get confused about the people that show up in Linux specific communities and get mad about “all the Linux fanatics”, and maybe the original analogy would work for that.
I guess repeating continuing to make analogies in what appears to be a serious tone seems like an odd way to make the argument that the original analogy is broken. You’re not pointing out any flaws, using the current analogy to show how it doesn’t work… just changing the setting while keeping the overall analogy completely the same.
It’s like going to a brothel and continuing to have sex with prostitutes then saying the brothel is broken… sorry, I had to.
More like a bar with too many drunk people. It is understandable that they are there and its also expected that there are sober people there but it gets annoying when the drunk people keep spilling alcohol on you. Tho i dont its it that bad.
Yeah, I agree Linux is actually just a really solid OS
Yeah, your’s is more accurate XD I have to say that there are people that get annoying when they’re drunk but thank god they’re not the majority otherwhise going to the bar would be unbearable.
Can I complain there are not enough Linux users?
Yes that was always allowed
Only for a while, because I heard that it’s the year of Linux on the desktop this year, so… I guess the rest of the world will join us pretty soon.
It’s contagious. I caught the Linux over the weekend. It’s the Kubuntu strain of the disease, so I think it’s a mild case. But there’s always a risk it can spread to full-blown Arch.
Careful it can also progress into Stage 4 BSD.
Don’t forget to enable the wobbly Windows. It prevent distro hoping.
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I got a good chuckle out of that. Nice.
Stop it. Now. This is not tolerated in this thread and if I see you post another one like this, I will report you. People don’t give a Debian what you think is funny. I Mint it. serious frowny face serious red arrow pointing at serious frowny face /jk
LunarVoyager is not in the jokers file. This incident will be reported.
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I’d never used Linux before getting a Steam Deck. It’s now my preferred PC. But it’s also super-duper polished and painless.
I have always liked Windows, but I’m always two versions behind and have never actually experienced any other OS. I’m open to Linux, but it also scares the shit out of me because I’ll essentially go back to knowing fuck all about the OS on my PC.
And I’ve also heard gaming can be complicated on Linux, whether or not that’s true.
Most games are ok, big online games are usually not (anything that has kernel level anti cheat, straight up bans Linux, or uses a third party launcher that doesn’t have much support on Linux). Usually can be overcome, but can result in a ban. For those games, you can either dual boot or virtualize Windows (which also can get u banned).
Tons of games have Proton support (check ProtonDB). If you select a stable distro and don’t install custom stuff, you should be good without knowing much besides hitting Update all button from time to time and pasting any error message you get into your preferred search engine. Hell you can install SteamOS and be eternally happy.
I hope you aren’t running EOL software. You aren’t running EOL software right?
I’m on Windows 10 currently, so not quite two versions behind, but I held onto XP and 7 for ages.
Just keep in mind you have until Oct of next year to migrate. Either go for Windows 11, Linux or Mac OS.
You can’t safely stay. Don’t sacrifice your own security because of some personal vendetta against Microsoft. Windows 11 is very similar to Windows 10.
Thanks for the heads up. I don’t really have a vendetta against Microsoft, I just hear a lot of moaning over how bad 11 is and have been hesitant to upgrade thus far. Even if it isn’t great, I managed to strip 10 down in a way that it closely resembles 7, so I’m sure I can do something similar.
You know what else resembles windows 7?
A default install of Linux Mint!
No idea what that is, but probably not. Pretty much just stuff from the Discover thing. The biggest thing is Blender, also from the Discover.
Discover is the KDE app center. However, that’s not relevant to Windows.
I like Linux. I like Linux users. I don’t like people who think Linux is the only viable OS to use, though. That’s just obnoxious and exhausting.
So theres BSD, truth.
Yeah FreeBSD exists
WRONG Arch is the only right distro
This person uses arch by the way
And they’re vegan.
And asexual
100% their bike is a fixie and they lock it in front of their office building, it’s the only bike on that bike rack, because they like to show how cool they think they are.
I use Ubuntu, btw.
Mint FTW!
TempleOS is the true Operating System
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Based and truth-pilled.
I don’t care how many people use it, but it seems to pop up (unwarranted) in darned near every sub I’m in. Enjoying something is fine, but it’s best to not let any single thing become your identity or define you as a person.
That’s me but with US politics, I blocked a few communities and moved on.
Yep. Better to get to the finish line of life with no identity whatsoever. Life is meant to be left unlived.
And as we all know, only extremes exist! The middle ground is an illusion!
What?
Leaves grow upward because they would die in the depths, just as roots would die in the air.
exactly what a windows user would say
k
like, how many Star Trek communities do you need, right?
Never enough
when she looks a little further and finds out that you are cheeting
but not on her, just in the game you convinced her to play with you.
Frankly, I don’t have a problem with anyone who uses linux, I do too. I just get tired of the same stupid circlejerks that paint it as some kind of perfect alternative to existing mainstays. I like it, you like it, Lemmy is a deeply nerdy subsect of diehard FOSS ideologies and the power of the personal computer. But dear god is it kind of insufferable at times when it’s preaching to converts, and I imagine even less pleasant for those who just don’t have a desire to care.
Hear ye, Hear ye! The local Linux preacher approaches! Hide all those whom value thou sanity!!
Second.
That blue screen of death post which recently said that Windows users live in fear of losing everything was a perfect example. As is this bullshit shower thought.
On the other hand, my only remaining Windows machine routinely bluescreens with 0xDEADDEAD, which is never supposed to happen (it’s a test code, for a deliberately initiated crash).
I think the last time I got a kernel panic on a Linux machine was 2011, and it was an mp3 player that was definitely not designed to run Linux.
I will say there were times I wanted to ask certain questions, and was sure I would just be met with multiple “switch to linux” responses. I just used google to try and find answers on Reddit.
Microsoft makes stupid decision for Windows = There’s always someone writing up paragraphs of how they switched to Linux via Mint, like they’re about to convert swathes of people to do the same. Insert meme where Obama is giving himself a medal.
You know, I did it. I finally took the leap, ditched Windows, and installed Linux Mint. And honestly? I can’t believe I didn’t do it sooner. I mean, who knew freedom from updates that hijack your work in the middle of a call could feel this good? It’s like discovering this secret, ultra-customizable paradise where I’m the one in control.
And the best part? It was way easier than I expected. No complicated coding, no hidden hoops—just a few clicks, a couple of quick installs, and bam: a smooth, speedy system that’s totally mine. I feel like Neo breaking free from the Matrix! Now I just want to shout it from the rooftops, like, why isn’t everyone doing this? Windows users could be liberated! Free from the reign of random reboots and endless notifications.
I’m telling you, if you’re still on Windows, come on over to the Mint side. We have stability, speed, and a whole lot of satisfaction. The world needs to know!
Aw shit, here we go again…
Art. New copy pasta?
It was just ai bullshit… Don’t think to hard about it… Lol …
Should’ve told me sooner, else I wouldn’t have spent so much time working on a rant to your original comment
I mean, probably a lesson to be learned about the Internet in general… Don’t trust anything you read I assume the dead Internet theory is true and go from there… Sometimes it’s fun to talk to bots you know?
Don’t take this shit like you’re having a conversation with a real person… The only person you know is real is yourself.
I saw your comment I actually really just installed mint so i thought it would be funny… I tried arch and I ran into problems so I said let’s just do something that just works… But for you I guess it didn’t I would say try again if it’s been awhile. I was able to get everything that I needed to work on mint that I was using on windows.
I tried to install pgadmin4 in Mint 22 and I must say I wasn’t fascinated spending hours intensively rummaging through forums and websites trying to understand what went wrong with simple installation instructions and going through the process of finding alternatives to outdated commands and manually signing packages and whatnot for something that would’ve taken a few mouse clicks to do on Windows.
I am already busy with other things going on in my life and I simply don’t have the time to fiddle around with config files and learning to fix my OS problems with commands and terminal. I just want an OS that does what it is told to do.
I still second the rest of the points mentioned in your comment, but I still feel like this isn’t enough to convince me to completely hop into the Linux bandwagon as long as these types of third-party apps problems like unavailability, installation and lack of parity and features for official apps or alternatives persist in my workflow.
You also have to run the right Linux distro. Try telling Lemmy you run Ubuntu.
who just don’t have a desire to care.
With this attitude don’t expect people to be supportive of your wrong choices
I think the biggest problem is the fact that it is a three-pronged Choice.
Where two of them are fighting each other to become the biggest dumpster fire and the last one is just trying to function.
Its like the American political system. 😂
I get that the preaching comes off as printing, but how is Linux not a perfect alternative?
Try to run photoshop or 3dsMax on linux. It just doesn’t work
Krita and Gimp are maaaaaybe up to the job if I invest enough time but blender is clearly not a replacement for 3dsmax.
Huh, I normally hear the opposite. What are some features of 3dsmax that blender is missing for you?
You hear the opposite? Which opposite? One opposite: no, blender do work on windows.
There isn’t a one feature missing, it’s the whole soft that’s a hot mess and the UX is made by someone hating good clear interfaces. Like make a 20mm side cube with every side a 4x4 grid, now work on those vertices (add, split, move). Make some boolean operations. Make bones. Rig them. Map it. Animate it. Export to b3d with normals, binormals and animations. Good luck with that.
I usually fall into the pit every other year and installs it. It has become something of use I guess, but last time I tried it it was sure way behind my legal copy of 3ds from idk 2000-ish.
Sorry I should have specified. That Photoshop is irreplaceable but Blender is pretty good for professional use.
Thanks for sharing, sorry your work flow and experience is messy with it. I’m just a part of the community, but it’s always interesting to hear where different work flows do and don’t work for others.
UX and front ends is such a fuzzy field for me to wrap my head around. So much is done by intuition before hand or after viewing analytics.
Yeah no problem, and I’ll be there installing it again a year or two frim now I guess :-)
Is there at least a simple way doing boxes (tubes, spheres, …) of a specific size and position plus boolean operations?
That way I could start (again) to try to learn it by using it for my 3D prints.
Photoshop on Linux https://forum.mattkc.com/viewtopic.php?t=336
I don’t know why someone downvotes you.
I felt it was easier to have a dedicated crap-pc running windoze for photoshop lol :-)
What’s that got to do with Linux? That’s a Photoshop or 3dsMax problem. There’s nothing about Linux getting in the way. It’s Adobe telling you no. Your dependence on Adobe isn’t a Linux problem.
3ds is like older than Linux
So?
That means it won’t argue in bad faith
What are you talking about?
The whole UX of using a computer is a collaborative project between hardware, os, and apps (and maybe networks). Any friction in that process is born in part by both sides.
I know what you are saying, and fuck Adobe, but the friction of Adobe products not working well on Linux is because Linux isn’t made to work well with corporate driven drm software. Unlike Microsoft, the Linux foundation isn’t likely to make a backroom deal to ensure that Linux will be developed in a way to keep their drm private and help them strip the rights of their users.
That leads to friction it is Linuxs fault for not accepting Adobes bs here. As it is also Adobes fault for sacrificing technical excellence in lu of artificial scarcity.
You’re wrong. It’s not collaborative. It’s competitive. Only open source is collaborative. There doesn’t need to be any secrets or DRM. That shit is what’s wrong. Worse than wrong, it’s bad.
Linux isn’t a person. It “accepts” literally anything. Nobody needs to accept Adobe’s BS. The industry is dragged down by them, not propped up.
There are frenemies in the some markets for sure. But no “the marketplace” is a collaborative thing, corporations are collaborative ventures, etc
Almost every human experience is marked by systems of collaboration, even if competition is also allowed within that system.
Also agreed, and again fuck Adobe.
Yeah, I get that a lot of these groups gotta work together, but there’s just way too damn much leverage bullshit going on. Things could be so much better with a totally open source world. Restricting copying and features that companies don’t want us to have just kills the romance of digital goods being infinitely copyable.
If your OS is competing instead of collaborating with the hardware and apps, that’s gonna be a bad experience.
Welcome to Apple and Microsoft. It’s a bad experience, but you’ll pay because all your friends are jumping off the same bridge.
The number one reason not to switch is “I don’t want to”. And I dislike that Windows users keep repeating decades old solved issues as excuses instead of being honest.
‘But muh games’ only very few don’t work OOB or at all.
‘I need this software’ most works flawlessly under Wine.
‘It crashes’ exactly as often as Windows with faulty hardware or bug in a driver.
‘Hardware isn’t plug&play’ more hardware works with Linux without installing drivers.
Jusy say “I dont want to give it a shot” or “I’m in the minority that can’t switch”, but don’t bullshit people about Linux requiring cmd to work. And those people then suggest editing registry to remove ads… It’s dishonest and in bad faith.
FOSS is the only way forward to stop complete enshittification of the digital space, like it or not.
Also I hate Microsoft and Apple with all my soul.
I get that most don’t care, but that doesn’t mean supporting those companies is good.
It’s fine to feel that way. It’s also fine to have that discussion with folks who may not know what the current state of is. But the bottom line is people don’t enjoy being told what they’re familiar with isn’t good or useful, because to them, it is. If it fulfills their day to day needs and wants, there’s very little argument to be had.
Microsoft’s business practices are scummy, and Apple’s closed ecosystem leads them to punish their customers. But not everyone uses their computer for more than what they absolutely require. Many do not have home computers, and may only interact with them for work. I’m a geek, nerd, whatever. I like to tinker, I like to customize, and I like that I have the freedom to do so. But most people just want something they’re familiar with, something that works as they expect it to. They don’t want to learn to use something at home that isn’t the same as work or school. And honestly I think that’s fair. There’s more going on in their lives, and these days almost everything they need to do is on the internet anyways.
It fulfills their every day needs and wants, expensively, intrusively, and without regards to their ownership of their own machine.
I agree with you 100%!
Also, if everyone switched to Linux, the games that won’t work, because the company making it is trying to own your machine, will all fail and those companies will have to do something else.
I disagree because I’d still be having a good time at the brothel.
Don’t break the illusion
Speaking of, I recently switched to Linux, do the thigh high socks just show up or do I have to order them myself?
If you use arch you have to start knitting
And with Gentoo you have to spin your own yarn before the knitting 😁
And with LFS, you need to breed, raise the sheep and then shear them yourself before you get to spin and knit the socks…
But you can tune the specifications of the yarn to theoretically make the socks up to 2% more comfy. In practice your tuning efforts will make the socks less comfortable and tear more easily.
You unlock them once you enter your 10,000th terminal command.
I just checked my
history, 21110. And there was more that got cut off before I increased the history length. Are they supposed to come each Christmas or something because I don’t have them yet.Just read the Arch wiki. It’s clearly explained there. Fuckin’ noob. Thread locked.
Does repeating commands count or do they have to be entered manually?
It’s rather a r9k kind of deal
Better get to work then, its gonna be a cold winter.
You need to be a naughty slut that deserves a spanking for that to appear.
You get a choice of free maid/nurse/lab assistant outfit as well.
Yep, as written in the manuscript:
“Stallman’s Sluts and Torvalds’ Thots,
shall all receive some thigh-high socks.”This should be on a metal plate somewhere
You have to find the shop and pay some gold, but when you equip them you get +2 programming and can be combined with BLÅHAJ for +2 gender euphoria.
Do people REALLY complain about Linux? There are nutters everywhere but I don’t think this is really a thing.
No it isn’t a thing, I’ve seen a couple memes and a new community about how Linux sucks but I’m pretty sure it’s either parody or trolling. Mine was an actual shower thought when I was thinking about that, rather than a complaint
Complaining that linux sucks, and complaining that there are too many linux users is two vastly different things. I think linux sucks, but I also wish there were more users because then there would be more programs for it, and it would also be better.
Yeah, I kind of agree here. I’d love to switch to Linux as my every day driver, but some things keep me tied to windows. Gaming is getting better on Linux by the day, but I still can’t use Ableton on Linux, and that’s basically a deal breaker for me. I think the newest Push has Linux support though, so who knows? Maybe one day.
I don’t understand why anybody would complain about that. It’s like complaining that too many people wear jeans.
Maybe because jeans wearers don’t spam up every thread about clothing with “JUST WEAR JEANS!”
They propably would if a common topic of discussion was “this is how leggings have got worse today”
I’ve only been on lemmy for a short time but I haven’t seen any Linux users spamming any threads that way. This complaint is the first sign I’ve seen that anybody even has that idea. It reminds me of crusty old farts who see a gay character in a sitcom and say OMG it’s all about the gays now!!!
Because any post can be turned into a Linux post here.
Much like how Linux can be run on anything!
Unless its something that can’t be done in a browser! Then whip out the Linux bible and download wine and virtualbox because you’re using windows baby!
I honestly cannot tell you the last time I ran windows to do anything. Like I’ll have to do some tinkering on the steam deck soon for the first time in a long time to get the sims playing for my SO, but that is still way easier then maintaining another whole OS, especially like windows where they hit my fam with UX updates that piss them off.
How else are you going to play FreeDoom if you can’t get Linux to run on it?
I think OP is confusing the fact that people are sick of Linux users preaching with people using Linux.
I agree. It’s like thinking you know all about a person because of their car.
Yeah, who knew an open source platform would be used by open source enthusiasts?
More like any-mention-of-anything-else protestors.
happy cake day!
