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    Meanwhile, America ignores this obvious fact to instead focus on….

    “BiDeN oLd!”

    More news, as it develops.

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        And this differs from Trump how exactly?

        And Biden being the only one of the two you are allowed to talk shit about doesn’t count as an answer.

        Please, tell everyone- what about Trump makes him the better choice?

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          Trump is not the better choice, they are equally incompetent and corrupt. You are implying people only have an issue with Biden because of age. There are a myriad of reasons why Biden isn’t liked.

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            bOtH siDeS, amirite?

            They are not equally incompetent and there are facts to prove it. But you don’t like facts, so I’ll not bother listing them. They’re out there though. It should take 30 seconds to find them.

            Aside from that- who do you suggest to replace Biden that is running and capable of winning against your boy?

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                Yeah bud, I think my comment history will show that’s a blatant lie. However, YOUR history is shows that you really shouldn’t be accusing the kettle here.

                I’m near certain that most people know why you’re here and what you’re up to. Thais why your ratio is garbage every time you say something- while on a platform that learns VERY far left.

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      FUCK NYT

      Is there a reason other than them criticizing Biden?

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      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_election_endorsements_made_by_The_New_York_Times

      They’ve endorsed a Dem every election back to 1956…

      But pointing out the obvious that 81 is old and Biden acts his age and suddenly it’s all “FUCK NYT” because moderates act just like trumpets.

      100% loyalty is permanently required, anything less and they never knew ya.

      Fucking cultists really want to make the Dem party just like the Republican.

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          What?

          I asked one question, which is literally “why”…

          Is there a reason other than them criticizing Biden?

          Which hasn’t gotten any response…

          Then I went back in edited in how long and steadfast the NYT’s endorsement of Dems have been.

          And commented on how concerning it was that all it took was recognizing reality for Biden supporters to start acting like trump supporters.

          It’s bad enough when 1 of 2 parties act like that. When they both do were all fucked.

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    It’s a thorough piece of opinion journalism that in 1960 would have helped end Trump’s candidacy. But then, if it was 1960 and the country actually valued journalism, Trump would have been disqualified so long ago. In 2024, it probably won’t be read by more than a handful of Trump followers, and even they will just sneer at it as confirming their biases about liberal elites.

    I’m becoming more and more cynical about November. Swing states are polling way too heavily for Trump - he’s leading in most and barely not in just a few. To me the NYT article seems obvious and impossible to dispute, but at this point we’ve fully partitioned ourselves as a country between those who can spot a con man and those who can’t. To those who can’t, we let Trump’s nihilism metastasize and it’s probably too late.

    Too much of the country is in the throes of mass delusion, thank you Rupert Murdoch, and I’m pretty sure American democracy has only a few months left to live. I’d love to see a plan, any plan, that realistically leads to a different result. And I am going to vote in November for Biden, or whoever replaces him. But I no longer believe America’s ability to do the right thing, even after it’s tried everything else (as the saying goes). Now, we’ve tried Trump and somehow are choosing the vehemently, obviously wrong thing.

    Until then, this piece is just a nice epitaph, a “we told you, you should have known” that will remind any MAGA recidivists who eventually experience leopards eating their faces after November, when Trump’s next presidency inevitably reveals itself to be an autocratic destruction of American self-rule.

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      If this were the 1960s neither candidate would have gotten this far and would have been shamed off the ballots before the primaries.

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      I hope you vote for the candidate whom you feel best represents you and the interests you prioritize. I hope your interests and your morals come from a place of clarity that isn’t clouded by biased content designed to manipulate you.

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          Not voting or voting third party for POTUS does nothing. It’s just pure vanity. Do what you want, I’m not really trying to change your mind, but it’s a virtually pointless move that doesnt make any sense under the current way we do things.

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            Not voting or voting third party for POTUS does nothing.

            While that’s a popular and oft-repeated opinion, it’s heterodox among academic historians.

            "Let a third party once demonstrate that votes are to be made by adopting a certain demand, then one of the other parties can be trusted to absorb it. Ultimately, if the demand has merit, it will probably be translated into law or practice by the major party that has taken it up…The chronic supporter of third party tickets need not worry, therefore, when he is told, as he surely will be told, that he is “throwing away his vote.” [A] glance through American history would seem to indicate that his kind of vote is after all probably he most powerful vote that has ever been cast."

            • John D. Hicks, Professor Emeritus of American history at Berkeley
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              Except we have 2 parties still. How did voting third party in the past solve that problem? Proof is in the pudding.

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                When one of the two major parties becomes tired of losing elections, they adopt policies from a third party to attract their voters.

                The impact of third parties on American politics extends far beyond their capacity to attract votes. Minor parties, historically, have been a source of important policy innovations. Women’s suffrage, the graduated income tax, and the direct election of senators, to name a few, were all issues that third parties espoused first.

                • Rosenstone, Behr and Lazarus
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                  So, it didn’t solve the problem? I’m not sure what you’re driving at here. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be multiple parties, I’m saying the vote during our presidential election, under our current system, is a strategic one, not one to throw away on a third party.

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          You may have done so already but you may want to see if the PSL is on the ballot where you are.

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            Yeah they’re on but if I’m protest voting I’ll be doing it in solidarity with Palestinian groups, which I’m assuming will be similar to primaries.

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              Unfortunately, a protest vote is a vote for Trump in our two party system. And Trump has said he wants Israel to be more aggressive and “end the war”. And any Palestinian Americans should fear Project 2025 calls for rounding up anyone they think is an “illegal”, or Muslim, or any non-white and wanting to put these people into death camps awaiting deportation. Although many on the right want to just execute everyone.

              Anyways, you can hold your nose and vote for the Dem candidate, or you’ve voted for the death of those who you are trying to protect and so many more minorities.

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                Biden providing endless weapons and money is allowing Israel to ‘end the war.’ The marginalized are not afraid of P2025, most have had it their entire lives. So while liberals claimed to have the backs of the marginalized, they demanded a vote for the people keeping them marginalized

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                Believe it or not, I’m familiar with the most common liberal point of view, but thanks for summarizing. Would you also say this is the most important election of our lives?

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                  How do you rationalize knowing the outcome you’d be voting for, and then staying that course? I understand taking a stand, and wanting change, but voting in a way counter to any of that becoming a possibility doesn’t grok for me. Biden is 81 and is nearing the end of his time here on earth, so empowering the guy that is going to encourage more of the same abroad, and also open death camps for non-whites in the US isn’t going to signal anything to him or the party.

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                  Since I’ve been able to vote I’ve experienced 9 ‘most important elections of our lifetime,’ and in the end nothing has improved.

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                  I think I’m a bit confused, is there a radio button to fill in on the ballot that says "protest " and then when all votes are counted, we can see a report that says x for dude, y for other dude, and z for protest?