• sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Believe it or not, I’m familiar with the most common liberal point of view, but thanks for summarizing. Would you also say this is the most important election of our lives?

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      How do you rationalize knowing the outcome you’d be voting for, and then staying that course? I understand taking a stand, and wanting change, but voting in a way counter to any of that becoming a possibility doesn’t grok for me. Biden is 81 and is nearing the end of his time here on earth, so empowering the guy that is going to encourage more of the same abroad, and also open death camps for non-whites in the US isn’t going to signal anything to him or the party.

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        I rationalize it by listening to Palestinians and their local advocacy groups. Nobody knows better than the victims.

        If they see one candidate as better than another, they’ll endorse.

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          So you think fascism is the answer? You would vote against minorities, in the US and around the world, to somehow save the people that are on the list of those the fascists plan to eliminate? You are voting for the leopard, and telling everyone to just deal with all the face eating? Weird stance, but if you can take a stance against everything you believe in, and believe that is somehow making things “better” more power to you I guess. You’ve drank your Kool-Aid and are just waiting for the meteor at this point.

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            I think you’re confused, I’m not voting for someone who is carrying out a genocide.

            If you want me to vote for a certain candidate, you should convince that candidate to stop the genocide.

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      Since I’ve been able to vote I’ve experienced 9 ‘most important elections of our lifetime,’ and in the end nothing has improved.

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        Sometimes it’s just about not getting worse. With every win the Right has been erroding people’s rights as quickly as they can. They have packed the courts with some of the least qualified and corrupt justices the country has ever seen. They have waged an attack on minorities both directly and through defunding programs and services that help the countries most in need. They have attacked education and turned librarians from a profession nobody thought anything negative of, to one the Right now deems as equivalent to pedophiles (publicly - we know it’s all projection for their private actions/feelings on pedophilia). So you may keep hearing the same message, because each election is more important than the last as the Right has been playing this long game of normalizing the erosion the foundation of our Republic. The majority of those in Trump’s cult now say they are ok with a King, the very thing this country had fought against and was founded after winning are freedom from.

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          And voting for the other half of the team that helped get us into this mess isnt the answer. That status quo is just as harmful as republican direct action. The only change has been the entire political structure shifting to the right.