During an appearance on the network, Pelosi touted President Biden’s record on the economy, saying, he “created 9 million jobs in his term in office. Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president. So we just have to make sure people know.”

Host Katy Tur briefly interjected, telling Pelosi “there was a global pandemic” during Trump’s presidency.

Pelosi paused, looking shocked, before shooting back at Tur that “he had the worst record of any president. We’ve had other concerns in our country.”

“If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role, but it ain’t mine,” she added.

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      Absolutely not, he was one of the worst. He was propped up by Clinton & the DNC as an easy opponent because he is an absolute moron. Unfortunately that backfired and is still here.

      The DNC are playing another a dangerous game again this year. They play this Trump extortion bullshit instead of pursuing policy that could land an easy W…but they’d rather see Trump again than move left to gain votes.

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        I see this sentiment a lot, but moving left could easily lose more votes than it gains. Blame Nixon, Reagan, or Fox News if you like. G.W. Bush won twice because Gore and Kerry were successfully painted as “too liberal,” and the public was happy to accept that.

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          Moving left will not lose Biden any votes. The Trump supporters will not change; they’re ride or die for that idiot. The disenfranchised and the youth have nothing to vote for, only something to vote against. Give those people a reason to come out to the polls. This election feels more like extortion than anything else.

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            My boomer in-laws have voted D their entire lives, but are considering voting Trump because they think Biden is too liberal. They are not as unusual as you might think.

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          Right now the crisis facing democrats isn’t “radicalization” - the independent vote in America is miniscule… it’s that there is a huge population left of “center” (i.e. the brand of conservative currently undecided between Biden and Trump)… the thing we need to strategically attack is voter apathy.

          Giving young people and other dissatisfied liberals a reason to turn out is critical.

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          I see this sentiment a lot, but moving left could easily lose more votes than it gains.

          So centrist voters are fickle and unreliable, which is why we listen to them?

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            By definition, swing voters can go either way. We try to get their votes because in our FPTP system, you only win elections by getting the most votes in enough states.

            Don’t forget that you need to appeal to a majority of the voters in many of the states to win a Presidential election. That includes in swing states where the center is well right even of Joe Biden.

            I’d be happy to read about polls that show otherwise. For now it looks like a lot of progressives like to think their policies are very popular but can’t win outside of California and Massachusetts.

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              I’d be happy to read about polls that show otherwise.

              Uh huh. I’ve seen what this platform says about polls that indicate that people aren’t happy with centrist Democrats.

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          I’m not the person you were asking, but no, I don’t. I don’t feel I owe you one. I feel it’s awfully presumptuous of you to imply I need to pass a purity test before I can criticize Biden. He’s the fucking president. We’re supposed to criticize him. That’s an important part of a functioning democracy. Acting like “our guy” is above criticism is what magas do. I have no use for them, and I have no use for you.

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      Making animal cruelty a federal offense is a pretty nonpartisan cool thing to do and “take their guns now, due process later” was maybe the most candidly progressive official comment from a POTUS on gun control I’ve heard in a while