Germany’ Republic fell in the early 1930s because a splintered left failed to form a government for years and a right wing party took control as a result.
Failed to form a united Left because of right-wing liberal dipshits parading as leftists, sowing division, and playing controlled opposition for the rising fascist regime.
When Rosa Luxembourg was murdered fascism wasn’t an international threat but a local Italian movement at best. Or is everything you don’t like fascism to you?
Funny how communists were aware of the dangers of fascism though and tried to warn anyone and everyone about it though. Maybe because their (our) political analysis makes sense?
I really don’t know what kind of mental exercise you’re trying to do. Do you really think that the core characteristics of fascism were invented in Italy in that particular period? Rosa Luxembourg, as any revolutionary from the late 1910s, was very aware of the core belief system of fascism. Proto-fascist groups such as the Black Hundreds in Russia were well known, and Italian/Nazi fascism doesn’t stray very far from the core of these people.
Libs like you saying “let’s negotiate with fascists” is exactly why fascists get to power. Please remind me, who eliminated fascism in WW2 and how did they do it?
making the Fascists the option in the hypothetical
The hypothetical? Do you really think that when I talk of 1930s and the murder of Rosa Luxembourg by the German SPD I’m talking about hypotheticals? I’m talking about historical events
I assumed you were speaking in analogy as it pertained to modern politics, but SPD and the Communist party could have formed a coalition and that would have prevented the Nazis from ever taking control of germany, but the communists didnt do that.
You assumed I was speaking in analogy when I mentioned the murder of Rosa Luxembourg?
SPD and the Communist party could have formed a coalition and that would have prevented the Nazis from ever taking control of germany
My dear, the SPD literally MURDERED the communists, what the hell are you talking about? Why this revisionism and this alternate history? In Spain, the socialdemocrats and the anarchists allied in a broad coalition and the fascists won in the end, it’s just that they did a civil war instead of entering through the institutions. Why the need to try and invent alternate history that suits your historically proven wrong view?
I feel like citing the Itallian anarchists isn’t really doing your argument ant favors.
The SPD was a party with more seats, the Communists could have helped them establish a government. I remind you that the VERY FIRST THING the nazis did when in power was persecute all Communists. There is nothing the 1930s SPD could do that would have been worse than that.
Germany’ Republic fell in the early 1930s because a splintered left failed to form a government for years and a right wing party took control as a result.
Failed to form a united Left because of right-wing liberal dipshits parading as leftists, sowing division, and playing controlled opposition for the rising fascist regime.
Gee why does that sound familiar?
German Communists: “guys we either do a revolution RIGHT NOW or we’re getting overrun by fascists”
German Socialdemocrats: murder Rosa Luxembourg and end the communist movement through state violence
German Socialdemocrats: “dang, how did the fascists get so powerful? Must be the fault of the communists I guess”
When Rosa Luxembourg was murdered fascism wasn’t an international threat but a local Italian movement at best. Or is everything you don’t like fascism to you?
Funny how communists were aware of the dangers of fascism though and tried to warn anyone and everyone about it though. Maybe because their (our) political analysis makes sense?
That might be funny if you can show an actual contemporary quote, otherwise it’s just your non-historical babbling.
I really don’t know what kind of mental exercise you’re trying to do. Do you really think that the core characteristics of fascism were invented in Italy in that particular period? Rosa Luxembourg, as any revolutionary from the late 1910s, was very aware of the core belief system of fascism. Proto-fascist groups such as the Black Hundreds in Russia were well known, and Italian/Nazi fascism doesn’t stray very far from the core of these people.
If your only options are taking what you want with violence or having things taken from you with violence, you’re a shit negotiator.
Libs like you saying “let’s negotiate with fascists” is exactly why fascists get to power. Please remind me, who eliminated fascism in WW2 and how did they do it?
You’re the one making the Fascists the option in the hypothetical. There does not need to be any fascism.
You’re negotiating with the general population as a whole.
The hypothetical? Do you really think that when I talk of 1930s and the murder of Rosa Luxembourg by the German SPD I’m talking about hypotheticals? I’m talking about historical events
I assumed you were speaking in analogy as it pertained to modern politics, but SPD and the Communist party could have formed a coalition and that would have prevented the Nazis from ever taking control of germany, but the communists didnt do that.
You assumed I was speaking in analogy when I mentioned the murder of Rosa Luxembourg?
My dear, the SPD literally MURDERED the communists, what the hell are you talking about? Why this revisionism and this alternate history? In Spain, the socialdemocrats and the anarchists allied in a broad coalition and the fascists won in the end, it’s just that they did a civil war instead of entering through the institutions. Why the need to try and invent alternate history that suits your historically proven wrong view?
I feel like citing the Itallian anarchists isn’t really doing your argument ant favors.
The SPD was a party with more seats, the Communists could have helped them establish a government. I remind you that the VERY FIRST THING the nazis did when in power was persecute all Communists. There is nothing the 1930s SPD could do that would have been worse than that.