• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    If your only options are taking what you want with violence or having things taken from you with violence, you’re a shit negotiator.

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      4 days ago

      Libs like you saying “let’s negotiate with fascists” is exactly why fascists get to power. Please remind me, who eliminated fascism in WW2 and how did they do it?

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        4 days ago

        You’re the one making the Fascists the option in the hypothetical. There does not need to be any fascism.

        You’re negotiating with the general population as a whole.

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          making the Fascists the option in the hypothetical

          The hypothetical? Do you really think that when I talk of 1930s and the murder of Rosa Luxembourg by the German SPD I’m talking about hypotheticals? I’m talking about historical events

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            I assumed you were speaking in analogy as it pertained to modern politics, but SPD and the Communist party could have formed a coalition and that would have prevented the Nazis from ever taking control of germany, but the communists didnt do that.

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              You assumed I was speaking in analogy when I mentioned the murder of Rosa Luxembourg?

              SPD and the Communist party could have formed a coalition and that would have prevented the Nazis from ever taking control of germany

              My dear, the SPD literally MURDERED the communists, what the hell are you talking about? Why this revisionism and this alternate history? In Spain, the socialdemocrats and the anarchists allied in a broad coalition and the fascists won in the end, it’s just that they did a civil war instead of entering through the institutions. Why the need to try and invent alternate history that suits your historically proven wrong view?

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                I feel like citing the Itallian anarchists isn’t really doing your argument ant favors.

                The SPD was a party with more seats, the Communists could have helped them establish a government. I remind you that the VERY FIRST THING the nazis did when in power was persecute all Communists. There is nothing the 1930s SPD could do that would have been worse than that.