Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

  • xapr [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    14 days ago

    I just don’t get all the anti-hexbear hate I see on other Lemmy servers. Questioning your mainstream/western/capitalist beliefs and arguing about it shouldn’t be ground for blocking them. I have yet to see any egregious behavior from them. Sure, I see somewhat outrageous takes on their own hosted communities, but have yet to see them cross the line on other servers.

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      Setting aside the content of their comments, I have often found their commenting style to be obnoxious or rude. They’re free to do their thing of course, but since I’m not into it, I’ve blocked that instance. Over time I’ve seen fewer and fewer comments from hexbear users, and I imagine that’s because some instances have chosen to defederate from them.

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        Yes, a lot of instances have blocked them, and I have yet to see a proper justification for it, other than that they confront people’s beliefs. As for being obnoxious or rude, I would love to see some example exchanges that make people think that. Unfortunately that has been difficult to come by so far. From what I have seen, they call people liberals, fascists, etc, and in turn people call them tankies, etc. Seems fairly even to me so far.

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          14 days ago

          I don’t have sample exchanges at the ready, but I take issue with the gigantic stickers, the unwarranted confrontational tone, and the childish namecalling.

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            14 days ago

            I understand that the gigantic stickers thing was actually a bug that has been fixed several Lemmy versions ago. I haven’t seen a giant sticker/emoji from hexbear in quite a while. I can sort of understand what you’re saying about the confrontational tone and namecalling though.

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          13 days ago

          and in turn people call them tankies,

          It’s hard not to when their first message is a dismissive “another fucking lib 🙄”. You try to be civil but every comment after that is along those lines. It only sounds fair when you don’t consider the rest of the context.

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            12 days ago

            Understood. If it is as you described and some of their responses were disproportionate relative to your posts, then that’s regrettable.

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      14 days ago

      It’s a firehouse of falsehood kind of thing. Fragment people’s concept of reality to the point where people can’t even have a conversation.

      The “question your beliefs” crowd is just people trying to create an alternate (and false) narrative so they can control you.

      And that’s all hexbear ever does. People not as naive as you are about these things find them to be a waste of time and they do nothing other than interrupt actual conversations based in reality. Which isn’t healthy for a discussion forum.

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        14 days ago

        I suspect that your perspective of the world (geopolitically speaking) is very different from mine, so it would probably not be a constructive use of our time for either of us to go into the details of what you wrote.

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      13 days ago

      Questioning your mainstream/western/capitalist beliefs and arguing about it

      I wish that’s what they actually did. Instead we get 12 year-old Twitch chatters pretending to be wiser than thou punching down

      I have yet to see any egregious behavior

      Lucky you!

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        13 days ago

        But that’s another complaint without providing actual examples. I could just as easily complain about the same things from liberal lemmy.world posters.

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          Fair enough. I wish I had saved the thread that time I got piled on by 40 Hexbear and .ml users acting like children when they misunderstood my point about communism. It would’ve been a great example of their pretentious and shallow meme culture.

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            I’m sorry to hear that you had that experience. I can imagine that the tendency of some people online to pile on is only magnified and strengthened when socialists and communists who feel that their ideology has been unjustly maligned and distorted for the last several decades finally find a group of people who think like they do.

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      Tribalism is a hell of a drug, and generally speaking people don’t like it when you support fascists that aren’t on your team.

      That said, I don’t think my instance is federated with them so I only see their comments in rare circumstances, and even then half their takes are straight from RT

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          I block them through the app too lol

          That’s definitely not perfect though. You won’t see the instance itself but they’ll pop up in comments

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      Because they turn everything into a debate. I don’t want to constantly be called a “lib” just because I don’t think communism is the solution. These people would turn everything comment section into a warzone, even after I left all political communities. Even meme communities and communities about random unrelated topics became a minefield. I come here to destress and read some interesting stuff about topics I enjoy, not to be piled onto by 5 commies and be called a filthy lib for daring to say anything that doesn’t fit their view. I’m left-wing myself, but to them everything to their right is evil. I’m happy I don’t see their poison anymore

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        Ok, I understand you feel that way and believe that you’re being sincere. I just rarely get to see actual examples to back up all the complaints. Like someone else commented on some other thread I read today, I see 10x more complaints about hexbears and tankies than I see actual bad behavior from them.

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          I think generally it’s calmed down over the past 12 months and don’t see so much shitty behaviour like we used to. There would be a tendency for them to jump onto a thread and swarms of them would dogpile onto people spamming them with pictures and antagonize people.