The former president has always considered himself to be the ultimate disrupter. But this time, the disruption is on the other side.

Through the weekend, there were an awful lot of questions that were going back and forth from people in the president’s tightest circle, and one of the questions that kept being asked was whether Joe Biden was going to endorse Kamala Harris or not. And the question didn’t revolve around whether he wanted to or not, but whether people in her camp thought it would be better for her to fight for it, win it on her own, and not be seen as somebody who was tapped by President Biden and so, in her own way, have a fresh start going into the campaign.

So the timing seems to be about as good as it could have been to end what has just been one of the craziest two or three weeks in American politics in quite some time.

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    https://marianne2024.com

    BTW I’m not putting her down. I’m saying handing it to her without any public debate or discourse, and just acting like cause she was Biden’s VP that she’s already got this, isn’t a winning strategy. She’s got to distance herself from Biden now and show America what she’s got that will be superior and better.

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      Williamson didn’t break 10% in the 2020 primary. What makes you think she’s going to capture more of the Democratic vote now?

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        I didn’t say she would. I said Kamala needs to prove herself… she needs to have some public discourse with other people to show the public she is the best candidate. If another candidate makes her look weak and she can’t talk about an agenda in details, then she’s not going to do very well.

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          She has been the fucking VICE PRESIDENT for awhile now, and she’s been an attorney general AND a district Attorney. She does not need to “prove herself”.

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            So the Joe & Kamala ticket was losing in polls badly, causing other Democrats to suffer. Kamala is going to have the exact same issue if she doesn’t prove herself. What she proved so far was she was fine with genocide, she was fine with elder abuse. If she doesn’t distance herself from Joe and show us something different, then Joe might as well have stayed in. What is a democracy if the voters have no say in the matter, and the nomination is just given to the same corporate puppet that stood alongside the losing candidate?

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                I know emotions are running hot, but I believe the parent’s sentiment is 100% valid. if we want to be a representative democracy we have to embody a representative democracy.

                no nomination hand outs. no nomination succession. biden endorsed kamala. cool, I hope the delegates keep that in mind as they evaluate candidates on our behalf.

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                  There will be no other major candidates. Anyone who could contend with her has already said they won’t challenge her. The party wants to get on to the general election, not run a pointless delegate-primary with a no-name that’s still not in any way a representation of the voters. They were chosen as Joe Biden loyalists in a primary with a foregone conclusion, not because the voting public thinks these people are especially good at evaluating candidates and representing their interests.

                  Don’t get me wrong, the delegates will still be the actual people deciding who to nominate, but it’s going to be Harris.

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                    understood and agreed. still useful to maintain the ideal in my head.

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      I remember her from her last campaign. She is pretty articulate on stage, but she has some really fucking loony beliefs. Way too much spirituality and love. That’s a fine message for self-help books, but it was a bad look when Nancy Reagan was dialing Miss Cleo for advice, and it would look even worse today.

      Trump would tear her up one side and down the other.

      You want Kamala to prove herself? The clowns I’ve seen stepping forward - Manchin and now this - aren’t going to prove or disprove anything.

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        It’s worse than that, IIRC she came this close to saying that the power of positive thinking would drive away covid. She is too far around the horseshoe imo. I’ve known people into the kind of magical thinking she’s into, and it’s really not a good thing.

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        Because the DNC did what they always do. They said sure we’ll change the face but not give you choice. They hope just having a younger black female version of Biden will be sufficient, even though nothing is really changing. Voters weren’t just worried about Biden’s age, they are also tired of being manipulated and gaslit about their party.

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          Biden was a good President - the best going back at least as far as Clinton - and a younger black female version of him would be far from the worst we could do. That being said, no one is worried about DNC manipulation this time. That ship sailed with Bernie. I backed Biden and I said if not him Harris is the only other real choice. And here we are, and I’m feeling good about it.