The president of the right-wing group spearheading Project 2025 raised the specter of violence Tuesday against those who refuse to capitulate to what he characterized as “the second American Revolution” ushered in by presumptive GOP nominee and would-be authoritarian Donald Trump.

Kevin Roberts, head of the Heritage Foundation, said in an appearance on “Real America’s Voice” that the coming “revolution” will “remain bloodless if the left allows it to be”—a thinly veiled threat against those who resist the far-right’s efforts to seize power.

Trump said in April that whether there is violence surrounding the 2024 presidential election “depends” on the “fairness” of the contest and the outcome.

Watch Roberts’ remarks:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1808507354310209711

“We are going to win. We’re in the process of taking this country back,” declared Roberts, who has said Project 2025 is “institutionalizing Trumpism” in preparation for a possible victory in November.

  • theprogressivist @lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    153
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    Scheppele’s assessment echoed that of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, which warned in an analysis published late last year that “the entire project is devoted to aggrandizing executive power by centralizing authority in the presidency, and a key aspect of democratic backsliding is viewing opposition elements as attempting to destroy the ‘real’ community, an essential aspect to quashing dissent.”

    “Project 2025 paints progressives and liberals as outside acceptable politics, and not just ideological opponents, but inherently anti-American and ‘replacing American values,’” the analysis said. “Targeting vulnerable communities is a core tenet of Project 2025. Project 2025 is very clearly on a path to Christian nationalism as well as authoritarianism.”

    For the love of everything we care for. Please vote this November.

    • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      128
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      But I’m just so undecided. I mean, yeah, that sounds bad, really bad, but Biden is old and had one bad performance. Forget all the other recent events where he did well, I’m only able to focus on that one bad one. /s

      • Fisk400@feddit.nu
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        76
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        We will let the record show how clever you were compared to the undecided voters as you all go in the same burning pit.

        Since you correctly dont care who the democrat candidate is, could we perhaps pic a candidate that will survive the term? Orb are you going to change the centrists minds by being very smug on the internet? We all know how effective that is.

    • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      22
      ·
      3 months ago

      It’s far too late to vote our way out of this, Trump will be president next year because the Democrats would rather lose an election than a fundraising opportunity.

      Start preparing for the inevitable. If you and your friend circle aren’t ready to engage in mass civil unrest like the French do whenever their government acts up then it’s time to get that way. Form an affinity group, practice acting in concert while in black bloc, study police tactics, surveil the local fascist agitators, join a worker’s union, identify opportunities to disrupt business-as-usual, and most importantly, do not organize online.

      • jumjummy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        3 months ago

        People like you are the problem. You’re just spewing nonsense. This is ABSOLUTELY the time to vote.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    129
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    The thing that is upsetting about American fascism is not that it exists.

    It’s the fact that everyone is debating it like an argument about what kind of chairs you want at a wedding.

    It’s the same scenario that played out in 1930s Germany and the rise of Nazism … everyone kept arguing that it wouldn’t happen, it’s not like that, it isn’t that bad, they have good points, we can control it, we won’t let them go too far, everyone obeys the rule of law, we have morals …

    … then we all had to literally break the entire world in order to fix the problem.

    • cybermass@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      39
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I couldn’t agree more, the parallel between Nazi Germany and current day America is undeniable

      • maynarkh@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        Wonder if the rest of the sane world will have to make a deal with the devil, just not with the Soviets but the Chinese.

        Imagine the Reichstag flag picture with a Chinese flag on the White House. Except everyone is in NBC suits and knows we’ll go extinct in years.

    • Dragomus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’ve been gently pushing for the same message but at best hear people say “oh it’s just politics, and we have laws against all this so it will be years before anything can truely change”

      Hitler’s power was solidified in a matter of months, whereby he threatened and/or had his political opposition killed. Then he came with the excuse “I don’t believe my people did this”

      No one dared say any of it was against the laws, he was fully above the law and shielded anyone he felt worthy of the same, ofcourse he would have them dissappear when their use ran out…

    • dynamic_generals@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      3 months ago

      It’s seeming like a tide of unthinkability bias is awashing the country. Maybe there’s a better word for the phenomenon where one just can’t contemplate what could be a really bad problem. Or if one can, ‘oh but [the grim outcome] is so far down the road…’

  • Canopyflyer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    102
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    And where…

    THE FUCK…

    Is the FBI?

    If that’s not a terroristic threat, then what is?

  • azimir@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    90
    ·
    3 months ago

    And your God emperor is signalling bloodshed if we let you do it.

    You don’t negotiate or compromise with Nazis like the Project 2025 people.

    • SGGeorwell@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      48
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Basically they’re saying, “Shut up and take it or we’ll kill you.” That is not a political platform. It’s extra-Overton. It’s domestic enemy-making.

  • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    60
    ·
    3 months ago

    “If you don’t fight back, we’ll let you live” For now. Make no mistake about scorpions though.

    • foggy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      3 months ago

      I really hope we call it what it is this time around.

      We got some pretty grave consequences on the books for treason, and I think they might be just about the only thing that can start to put this fire out.

      • TachyonTele@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        It won’t happen. Biden has already said he won’t do anything. It’s ridiculous. Hopefully people like Sanders will get the ball rolling. At least he’s making noise.

        • Dragomus@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          3 months ago

          It looks and feels like everyone is waiting out what happens in November and with it what happens in January… (There might not even be an inauguration in January, Trump might begin his day 1 dictatorship right after he claims winning the elections, and has his goons to support him)

          Everybody that matters now is frozen from acting untill past the election, while imo now should be the time to intervene and not let it roll onwards, remove one of the chess pieces now and the momentum might not be unstoppable.

  • killea@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    55
    ·
    3 months ago

    Not only are they in the process of openly subverting the Constitution of the United States, they are openly calling for violence. When declared powerful adversaries call for violence publicly, every option is on the table. Collective self defense may be necessary, and they may yet regret it.

  • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    40
    ·
    3 months ago

    Dear President Biden, you have sworn an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. SCOTUS has given you cover to do almost literally anything you need to do to fulfill that oath. This is what a domestic enemy looks and sounds like. In fact, this is a target rich environment, Mr. President. Please, get off your ass and get to work.

    • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Yeah, this isn’t some fringe extremists they can pretend are outside the movement. The Heritage Foundation IS the movement. They’re “respectable” conservatives, transformed by Trumpism into full blown terrorists.

  • foggy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    35
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    By all means, let’s just sit around and wait?

    I really hope an attempt to overthrow our government is met with the terrifying force of our military. This shits been outta hand for too long.

    • Carmakazi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      3 months ago

      I think it’s somewhat arrogant to assume that the state violence apparatus is wholly on our side on this one.

      1. What kinds of people do you think staff the military and police, LBGT activists and climate protesters?
      2. For those not on the MAGA train but are perhaps “uncommitted”, being ordered to fire on Americans may be a bridge too far.

      The military will likely fracture like everything else in such a scenario. I imagine desertion, theft of equipment, and sabotage would all be huge problems until things more neatly sort themselves into “us” and “them.”

      • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        3 months ago

        Our country would be completely and permanently overthrown on the international stage the moment that happens. China and Russia will own the world, and America will be left in ruins. A civil war will make us incredibly weak, and the rest of the world probably isn’t going to fight for us when that happens.

        There’s a chance we’ll be literally overthrown too, especially if we leave (or are expelled from) NATO.

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        The military leadership is deeply neoliberal. They are definitely not leftist, but aren’t fans of Trump and MAGA either. However, expect Trump to start replacing them as soon as he takes office.

    • OpenStars@discuss.online
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      3 months ago

      Or those who simply enjoy contemplating the violence. Like, dang it, the Left capitulated, but are you sure we can’t kill just a few of them for uh… “demonstration” purposes?

  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    This is a classic rerun. Leftists, buy and register firearms for defense now, because it certainly will not be bloodless.

    ETA: don’t just buy a firearm. Buy a bunch of small paper plates and a shit ton of cheap ammo. Use the paper plates as target and practice at a range every day. If you don’t know how to handle a firearm, take a firearm safety course. They’re generally pretty affordable.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 months ago

    This country is so fucked. Much of the culture is checked out; a lot of the left/liberal movement seem to be up its own asshole in goofy pandering that seems designed to only churn out more donnie voters, and the cons are making plans, and basically announcing them to everyone.

    Also, I’ll vote Biden no matter what this fall, but the Democratic Party had better seriously consider removing him and selecting someone else. Otherwise, Biden’s chief legacy that is actually remembered will be helping to enable the dismantling of this country by being so egotistical as to think he’s the only one that could beat donnie in 2024.

      • Dr. Bluefall@toast.ooo
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        3 months ago

        Do you believe, in any measure, that Biden would use the power the latest rulings give him?

        Even if we assume he did, what would stop the current Supreme Court from just drawing a chalk outline around the exact thing he did, calling it unofficial, and then charging him anyway?

        The ruling was made to empower Trump, and those that puppeteer him. No one else.