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The article conveniently fails to mention whether it was sharp (extremely unlikely, the cheap steel used for these can’t really hold an edge), and even more conveniently crops out the tip of the “blade” so we can’t even see if it was pointed (also extremely unlikely, toys like this almost always have blunted tips).
This isn’t a weapon, it’s a toy. Sure, you could hurt someone with it, just like you could hurt someone with a baseball bat.
I reckon the police wanted to bust him for some other reason. The Master Sword was just their excuse.
Before he obtains the tri-force of power and becomes unstoppable.
Police has that discretion and it is ripe for abuse.
That why there is the advice to “only do one crime at a time” I guess!
The term crime lost a lot of its meaning somewhere between 10 commandments and now…
I guess dude committed a crime here but most people prolly would not really care.
While others commit bigger crimes and we care, nothing gets done.
The blade was only 6 inches that’s a master dagger at best lmao
Four months in prison for getting caught on CCTV fidgeting with a sheathed letter opener
The handle is just 4cm or about 1.5 inches, so a grown man can’t even hold it in his hand properly, it is clearly a kids toy. He may have used for role playing, although he called it a fidget toy?
But beware of the master claymore
That’s called a Biggoron sword
victim surcharge of £154.
WHAT VICTIM??? The article says nothing of him doing anything to others. To my knowledge he didn’t attack anyone. There’s no victim!
He is the victim. It’s a charge on him.
Soooooo, either he should get the money, as the victim, or the charge is basically police charging victims money for being victims.
…I feel like I’m missing something here.
This “victim surcharge” would be termed court cost or court fee in the US.
What a strange name if thats the purpose.
I don’t make things up, I just look them up.
Oh, I wasn’t accusing you of lying. I was just saying it’s such a strange name for a charge that has a legitimate purpose, but is named in a way that has nothing to do with that purpose.
Kinda like if you took an uber, and they charged you for the “poopy diaper charge”. And you say nobody on your trip even wore a diaper. So the driver tells you it’s so he can refill his gas in the car.
Good feckin point!
Four months of prison? It sounds like the man is disconnected from reality but hardly a real threat to society.
Seriously. I’ve seen letter openers more threatening than that “sword”. Was it dumb? Sure. Does he deserve a slap the wrist, absolutely. But prison?? No way. What the actual fuck?
The stupid thing is that the UK is literally running out of prison spaces currently so that we are considering letting long term prisioners out on licence early to free up room.
Yet apparently this man needs to have his life turned upsidedown in order to occupy one of those spaces for four months.
The cells are probably crammed full of cosplayers, student protestors and journalists. Remember that massive ruckus and manhunt for thee guy who was wandering around in a gimp suit making people feel uncomfortable?
“Our prisons have never been safer!”
It’s OK though because as soon as the prison guards turn their backs on him he will immediately escape on an eight inch paraglider.
gotta throw the book at him to get the numbers up so they look better when it comes to ignoring serious crime.
Draconian laws do be like that.
Bit draconian hey. I admit the whole thing was stupid but considering he didn’t hurt anyone with this toy or show intention to do so a fine alone would have been more than enough. 4 months prison? Wtf
It’s the UK. They used to just aim guys like this at Scotland.
Ah yes, another victory for zero tolerance policies.
Everything about this is asinine.
I know people are reacting strongly, prob a large US contingent here and that’s understandable. It is a completely different world in the UK. The police don’t carry firearms (specialist response teams do) as they are just not as available to the general public. Knives or clubs/bats are the most common weapon encountered. Even in that context I too find the sentence pretty heavy on the face of it. The article was rubbish at giving anything other than rage-bait. It didn’t explain if there were circumstances of aggravation, does he have form (ie prior same or related offences), were there vulnerable people in the vicinity, which specific charge was he accused with (possessing or threatening with) did he plead guilty, were there mitigating factors that actually reduced his sentence as the mandatory minimum sentence for “threatening with a weapon” is six months, eg did he cooperate, is he a sole caregiver for someone at home etc.
Only thing I’ve walked away knowing is the author of the article seemed more interested in provoking outrage and upping their hit count than demonstrating any investigative nous or journalistic integrity.
Even though we have the gun nuts all over this fucked up country, we do manage to far outscore the UK on per capita knife crime as well. Yay us. I agree with your take on the motivation for the article.
Just to be clear this was not in the US. Their weapons laws are way more restrictive then ours. Apparently he was brandishing it and approached police with it. Sounds like he is a moron.
That would be relevant if it was a weapon.
It still wouldn’t be WORLD NEWS.
The world needs a laugh sometimes.
It was 20 cm long. Or about the length of 2 toothpicks. ‘Brandishing’?
I think I need a box of these novelty toothpicks
Wait, your toothpicks are about 4 inches long? Is this another case of everything is bigger in America?
6 inches divided by 2 is 3 inches. Not far off from the 2.5" toothpicks I see frequently in Asia. YMMV re American toothpicks.
That’s what the article said 😂
That’s way longer. 20cm is the average blade length for chef’s knives. Over here in Germany, with way more liberal knife laws: Legal to own (duh) but also very much not legal to carry much less wield in public unless you have a good reason – like actually preparing food in public. You can transport that kind of thing without fanfare but transporting very much involves not having it at the ready.
Four months are still completely overkill, though. Impounding and maybe a week’s worth of fine (one day of disposable income == one day in prison here) if he was being stupid and careless but non-aggressive. Four months go way beyond “let this be a lesson” territory and very much into “the state is nuts and doesn’t make sense”. If you’re feeling poetic, how about some social hours in a charity store sorting donated fidget spinners.
That’s 20 cm including the hilt. Roughly 15 cm for the blade by itself. And about 1 cm thick. Most likely with no sharp edge to speak of, since it was a toy and I’m sure the dumbass police would have made a point of it if it had.
In other words, ‘wielding’ it in public is about as threatening as carrying a particularly stiff twig. Probably less, considering the size of the hilt.
4 months in prison for having a novelty pocket knife
And for some reason the prisons are full…
Not for simply having, but for brandishing said bladed device as the police approached. That’s the law, in that city. As the officer said, “It is possible to find fidget toys that aren’t six-inch blades. It is possible not to walk down the street holding them out in front of you. With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.” Bray brought this on himself, and could have avoided any contact with the police. He chose otherwise.
Brandish is a stretch nothing in that article noted an intent to intimidate others, it is simple possession of a tchotchke. Unless you count the author’s flavor text.
I’m just reading the article, as you were also able to do, and it says, “On 8 June, officers were made aware via CCTV of a man, Bray, walking down Queens Road, Nuneaton, with the sword in his hand. Bray approached officers with the blade visible, at which point he was arrested.” Bold added for emphasis. If I were out in public in the UK, and if I happened to have a bladed implement, I’d keep it out of sight. Especially if there were police anywhere nearby. But hey, you can do as you please. Have a nice day!
The blade was inside a sheath and could be released from the sheath with the press of a button.
And approached could simply be he was intent on walking past them on the sidewalk.
Why are you so dumb?
MASTER SWORD = 22 cm or 8.6 inches including handle and holster.
We also have very strict knife regulation here (Denmark), but I think if it is a first time offense, he would have gotten off with a fine, since it’s obviously a toy.Seems like a perfect place for role playing games!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire#/media/File:Kenilworth_Castle_(cropped).jpgWiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarwickshireWhat is the aim of the regulation?
Does it cover dense urban areas only?
Most youths who are involved in crime carry a knife for protection. This means that if the police want to arrest one of them, for whatever reason, they can because they will likely find a knife on them.
I see. Is this pure fear behind it or is there some evidence that the law is beneficial?
But yeah, another good pretext for harassing the young and/or poors.
Reminds of war on drugs until police started doing to the all “children” in the US and that attitude changed pretty quick.
We (Denmark) have 0.9 homicides per 100,000 capita, UK has 1.1 USA has 6.3.
Of course there are other factors, but overall regulation definitely and very evidently helps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.”
With a shred of brain matter, Sgt Spellman and the bastards he works with, could have not pursued such a ridiculous “crime”.
This is not a ridiculous crime, that guy is dumb af and dangerous.
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If you were caught with the blade visible in public, you could be arrested. I also carry a leatherman, and ensure it is never visible.
Yeah, I’m careful to never whip out my 3" in public.
At least it didn’t break in the middle of fighting a Lynel.
In addition to the four months in prison, he was required to pay a victim surcharge of £154.
So not only was there no victim here but himself he is also now out of work for a minimum of 4 months he’s now out 154 bucks. Fuck this world. Like ya, I get that there is that law for a reason, so sure, maybe give him a fine or better yet community service and then let him be on his way. What they have done benefits no one at all and wastes local resources.
Leave this old nerd alone
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