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This is separate from the API issue. This will actually BLOCK you from even viewing reddit on your phone without using the official app.
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It’s getting worse by the minute. I really really hope Lemmy usage picks up.
It seriously is. I’ve been on the site for all of 30 mins now and I am loving it so much more than reddit
Why? It’s a less mature platform with less features and not enough content. I get the idea of it being attractive but it’s like Mastadon without the content you’ve got an uphill climb.
The main reason is that although the concessions we make may seem ever so insignificant, they pile up and dettach you from what you were looking for in the first place. You barely see your acquaintances posts on instagram or facebook anymore. Twitter is on it’s way to become a cesspool. Every new Reddit “feature” just makes the experience worse. It won’t be long for those platforms to all converge into a big mind grinder for propaganda.
In fediverse there is no valuation seeking to ruin things, and there won’t be for the foreseeable future, so it’s good ground to build upon, it’s just good sense.
Take the content problem for example. You can think of that as an opportunity to be the content you want to see.
Well, for startes, the mobile web version does not sucks balls, I don’t see that as baby steps tbh.
And there was a time when the same could be said for Reddit. Is Lemmy perfect? Of course not, but at least we have the ability to build something better instead of making the hippo dance to our beat, as it were.
Not to mention there’s a lot of those features that have been added over the years that we could do without. Nobody’s clamoring for an RPAN clone over here (I hope), or for three different ways to DM/chat with people.
It’s a less mature platform with less features
That’s why I like it. It literally has every feature I used or wanted on reddit already.
It feels a lot more snappy, clean, and modern. I think most of that is because it hasn’t accumulated a lot of the bloat and feature creep that Reddit has over the years. The biggest downside, though, is that the community is much smaller and there isn’t a lot of the niche content that Reddit is so good for.
As soon as more of those niche communities start to pop up, there won’t be much reason not to use it over Reddit. It’s like a back-to-basics version of Reddit.
Exactly. Every advantage I hear that Reddit has over Lemmy comes from the community, not the platform. Add or move those communities to Lemmy and I don’t think people will see much reason to use Reddit.
The struggle is going to be getting the community to actually move over here.
Like it or not, Lemmy takes work to use and understand. It’s not the best metaphor, but Lemmy is a custom built PC whereas Reddit is a plug-and-play console. Mix that with the growing pains new platforms need to go through, and it’ll be tricky to pull new people in.
It took me about 20-30 minutes to get a handle on what’s going on, and hopefully it gets simpler as more people join!
Maybe I already had the right models in my brain, but for me I just created an account and started using it like reddit. Only thing different are the different servers.
Yeah but, referencing your analogy, if you want knowledgeable and informative conversation, you want to talk to your custom PC buddy, not the friends who only know how to plug and play. The comments sections on Lemmy are not dumpster fires like on Reddit
I hope so, I just hope that it actually gets some traction in the wake of all this instead of getting a modest bump and then mostly dying out again, which is what seems like the most likely direction. I have faith though
I should say that Reddit without RES would probably be much closer to what I’m seeing on Lemmy now.
that’s fair, I exclusively used old reddit but I never touched RES for whatever reason
Because it doesn’t actively try to make your experience worse
The problems with lemmy are actively trying to be solved, the problems with reddit are artificially created in order to make the user miserable.
It’s a less mature platform with less features and not enough content.
Well… that’s kinda why I like it lol
Yeah, there’s a really nice feel to when dealing with something simply.
spoiler
plus, instead of remembering all the key combines, you can click below which is diff from reddit app. Finally, accidental spoilers are no more!
I’m loving it, there isn’t half as much karma farming bs and pointless arguing in any of the subs I’ve joined. The content will come if folks don’t give in and go back.
Less mature and much less far along (and susceptible to) the enshittification curve.
Lemmy is better than mastodon, for me at least. There was nothing interesting going on at mastodon, but Lemmy is thriving.
What sort of content do you want? I’m fine with what’s her right now, but I’m more about discussion and knowledge.
So far it seems like a lot of the non technerd side of reddit is missing, things like diy ore Brewing dont seem to be hear yet (or i just didnt find them)
It’s unbelievable how’s user hostile all of these major site have become. I deleted my 11 year old Reddit account today and while it hurt a little it’s important that we send a message and not use Reddit at least until they repeal this bullshit.
Same! I deleted my 10 year account. Kinda not even sad. It was going downhill for a while now. But hey I just created my own instance for gardeners called thegarden.land so now I have a new home to grow roots and thrive!
That’s awesome! It’s nice to see that people can actually try things here without getting downvoted to hell like on Reddit :)
Nice new instance! I’ll come check it out and subscribe to a community. I just made a new one yesterday too, Lemmy.pro
Fellow account 10+ year deleter checking in! It sucks but reddit doesn’t care about any of its users despite us being the only reason it exists.
I’m pretty sure I’m going to delete my three year and ten year accounts and just walk away for good. Honestly I was a little sad all day today, because I have a few hobbies I’m really crazy about and the cooking, baking, gemstone, and gardening communities have felt like home for a long time…but just using lemmy for a tiny little bit, I’m actually really excited! I’m having a much simpler experience here that’s refreshing. I like the content I’m reading.
Fellow plant enthusiast here, thanks for the link to your instance!
Nice! Just joined 🤓
Hey from the Garden! We had to restart the site last night. Having some difficulties getting off the ground. I think we lost all our users! Were you one of them? Could I ask you to try there again and tell me if things are working okay, if you still are logged in, etc ? I Appreciate the help. Thegarden.land
Is there a way to follow this instance directly from the Jerboa app? Sorry to be daft, clicking the link seems to take me directly to a chrome tab :(
You should be able to add it as an account, I think from the top left when you are the main feed.
All working fine from my end 🙂
Great! Thank you
They’re not gonna repeal anything. The only thing that will stop this is by Reddit dying and becoming a part of web history, which is hopefully on its way to happening.
And even if they do back down this time, the next lamebrain attempt at the same thing will be brewing. Let it burn.
Pretty disappointing to see something I’ve spent so much time with go down the tubes like this. I know that for a lot of people, Reddit has been dying for years, but I’ve stuck to old.reddit and my Android apps, and haven’t looked at /r/all in a long, long time. I unsubscribed from all of the big/default subreddits, and just hang out in my happy subs where people (mostly) are people and aren’t lunatics, and it’s still been a nice place.
Killing the mobile apps is pretty much the last straw for me. I’m sure I’ll still click on search results from Reddit sometimes, but I won’t be logged in anymore and it will only be on a browser with ad-blocking and privacy features. There is no way I’m downloading their app.
If they were to go this route for all users, I would simply never use Reddit again on my phone. And yes, I’m in the minority, and yes, I know they don’t care about losing me, but man, what a bummer.
Reddit finding ways to actively make things worse, while lemmy rapidly improves.
Finding ways to shove more ads in your face and make tons of money. The issue is super simple at the end of the day.
Wow, they’re really putting some effort into alienating their user base. What a shame.
It’s great news when the social media oligopoly shoots themselves in the foot.
So far I’ve tried:
- Facebook = Diaspora
- Irc = Matrix (Element)
- Reddit = Lemmy
- Twitter = Mastodon
Out of all the different federated solutions I’ve tried, I believe this one has the best chance to hit big. Diaspora didn’t work because the network effect is too strong with Facebook. Same with Matrix and Mastodon. But reddit is pseudoanonymous platform, you are not here because of some specific people. It’s actually somewhat a benefit when there are less people and you have more room for people to see the content you put out. And the quality of the discussion can be better when there are fewer people.
It’s still likely that everyone will just go back to reddit but we have a good chance here. The Lemmy UI is actually better and more snappy for someone who has used old reddit all this time.
I’m also a old.reddit / RiF veteran and I love the mobile browser version. Already feels like home!
Same feelings / background here. Navigation will take me a little to grok, but I’m liking it so far.
The mobile browser experience in Lemmy is so much better than Reddit. I’m pleased there’s no need for an app, because it works fine in the browser.
I may myself go back to Reddit. My girlfriend loves the cat pictures I aend her from there. I’ll just stop moderating and creating content, only accessing the site on Desktop with adblocker. I ain’t giving a single fucking cent to them, even indirectly, if I can avoid it.
Funny thing is. If we all banded together. Sire would stop functioning. Just bits replying to each other.
Same In real life. If everyone strikes we could stop corruption. If everyone did something the game is over. We don’t and do it’s divide and conquer. Same as it ever was
It does feel like there a a significant level of friction with each of these equivalent platforms though, including Lemmy. As with anything new it’ll take time to catch on but each layer of complexity will be another stopping point for non-tech people.
I only just started with Lemmy, but the only thing I’ve noticed that needs improvement is discovering and subscribing to communities. This business of searching in a second browser window for communities other instances and then copying the URL into your own instance’s search box is way too clunky. Lemmy needs a way for each instance to carry metadata about the other instances’ communities so you can subscribe to them just by searching for their names and pressing a button.
Unbelievable. Are they actively trying to get as many people as possible to leave their platform all together?
Seems like it’s a race to become the most hated platform. Twitter started a bit earlier, but Reddit is catching up really well.
Facebook’s far worse than either of them, but as far as the Most Hated title goes, it will be fun (and grim) to see who wins that race. Although, I feel like Spez is simply selling out, and Elon is truly, more overtly, an evil fuckwit; who will keep screwing his platform out of spite far longer than Spez his out of greed. Spez played one of the last cards he could, I think.
Yes, this exactly. Ole spez is blinded by the impending IPO and those dollar signs are blocking anything else in his mind. At this point I think he would drive Reddit into the ground just to try and get a payday. For Reddit to survive he needs to resign.
I’m not discounting the possibility that spez himself is also evil — he’s certainly done enough shady shit. He was once a mod of r/jailbait, after all, and he (or Reddit staff) had given one of the sub’s founders a “Pimp Daddy” badge.
Holy shit! I did not know that!
Reddit will survive. Boycotts don’t work anymore because people can never organize enough to beat out the massive reach of entrenched monopolies anymore.
In a weird way, they probably are - I guess they figure that users who don’t see any/many ads are not contributing to Reddit’s finances, while still causing Reddit costs in terms of bandwidth, etc. In which case it makes sense to get rid of them (a bit like having an email database with 100000 people on it, but only 5000 of them ever open the emails - if you have to pay more to store those 95000 who don’t, then it makes some sense to rid of them.)
Problem is, how many of those who view on old or on 3PAs are the ones making/sharing the content that brings eyes to their ads in the first place - maybe they’ve analysed it and decided that the loss of goodwill and incoming content from those people is more than offset by the savings to be made in having a smaller but more captive audience?
They might be right - but I hope not, because they’ve acted like dicks.
It’s like they’re trying to kill the platform
They didn’t have a mobile app for the longest tim, that’s why 3rd party became so popular. They just don’t seem to get how to run it.
Yeah, maybe it’s an exit scam. I bet some executive said, “I’ll give the higher up execs what they think they want (ADS) which is the opposite of what the users want, but we’ll all get bonuses just before the site dies.”
Yikes this is so insane. I’m so sick of the ads and spyware laden apps. Once you look into that abyss it’s hard to unsee it. It’s uncomfortable to have every aspect of you monetized and viewed. It’s unnatural man. I just started hardening my internet and device use this year.
Between this and Twitter, I feel like “enshittification” is really the word of the past year. It’s incredible to watch these massive social networks completely turn on their users in the name of profit.
They were always going to. The pre-enshittification stage of a modern capitalist website consists of burning VC money to collect users to later exploit.
Twitter probably opened the floodgates when they managed to shaft users and cut API access without outright killing themselves. Now everyone else is emboldened to ask “why can’t we do that too?”.
*without outright killing themselves YET. i hope.
The thing that made me saddest about Twitter is how they shafted their own people.
I know Netflix has been enshitifying for a while now but that’s accelerated a bit this year too. I work in tech and it’s been happening everywhere.
Forgot about Netflix! Yeah they’ve got to be pretty close to late-stage enshittification at this point. They can only raise their prices so much while simultaneously removing content before they completely lose their users.
Jeez. The speed at which I’ve gone from “man it sucks that Apollo is shutting down but I still really enjoy Reddit and will suffer the first-party client” to “wow, Reddit is really trying to destroy their service and it’s probably best I don’t invest any more time there” is insane… going to draft up some thoughts and a probable farewell message for my frequented subs and followers there. End of an era.
Stages of grief Speedrun any%
Damn they turning into quora
I gave up on quora exactly for this reason lol.
I always hated quora, but somehow they got even worse.
TBH this is nothing new. They already randomly restrict you from viewing any type of nsfw content on the mobile browser version. It prompts you to download the app with no option to close the prompt.
Oh yeah, i noticed and it pissed me off so much. Thank god people made stuff like viewditt, where you just need to replace parts of the URL to at least see the content. Regardless terrible user experience that gets worse each year.
ahahaha the reason I finally stopped using Yelp was because their mobile site would only load part of a review and would force redirect to their app if you tried to expand on any reviews. Rather than download the app or change user agent, I just gave up.
every website and their mother wants you to download their app nowadays.
Wow, they’re really shitting the bed aren’t they?
It was always going to happen, and the best time to shit the bed, is when you’ve already wet yourself, because the sheets have to be changed anyway, right?
They already made the mobile site practically unusable by constantly reminding you to use the app. The mobile browsing experience was just terrible. They can just show the same adds in the mobile browser…
I’d guess they’re trying to proactively prevent people from using adblock on mobile browsers.
Precisely. They can only enforce ads on the mobile app
Ironically, I’d just set my browser to desktop mode, and use the old reddit desktop interface. The more they modernized, the more entrenched I become.
