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  • Soup@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Don’t forget that maintenance is super cheap AND most people, with only the most basic tools, can do the work in their living room or even just on a sidewalk. And if I don’t get it right and the brakes don’t work perfectly I probably won’t fuckin’ die.

    Hi, car owner here. I do all the work myself and it requires a fair bit of knowledge, expensive tools, space, and a childhood where I was never told I couldn’t do that work if I was thoughtful about it. That’s a high fuckin’ bar and requires a whole lot of privilege-oh there it is, too many people with privilege like to shit on those without and most of North America has dogshit for public transit or bike infrastructure and the “freedom of movement” with a car is all there but heavily artificial. Thanks auto industry and their lobbyists.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      I do my own bicycle and auto repair, and the bicycle is way easier. Maintenance is:

      • clean chain every so often (500 miles or start of the season) - get a chain cleaner tool thing ($10-20) and 50/50 Simple Green ($10 will last many years) and water, and then rinse, dry, and lube ($10 lasts years) - total process, 10 min?
      • replace chain - $20 or so, plus a tool for $10 or so; do every 2k miles or so
      • replace brake pads - $10-20
      • tires ($50 for a fancy fire) and tubes ($10) - replace tires when bald, tubes when flat (or patch them), and get some tire levers ($5-10) to make it easier

      For tools, you need a wrench set, and probably only like 2-3 sizes.

      My yearly maintenance costs for all of our bikes (1 adult, two kids) combined is about $50. If that. You could also go to your local bike shop instead for about double that.

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        9 months ago

        Also this is a healthy maintence regime. In my experience most cyclists do nothing on that list except swapping flat tubes and their bikes still ride just fine, if not merely sub-optimally.

        • TwanHE@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          Honestly have never done preventative maintenance on my bikes, only necessary repairs. Still thinking about repairing the shifter since I’ve been missing 1st gear for about 7-8? years now.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          9 months ago

          True. If you’re just riding casually, you don’t really need any maintenance.

          But if you’re relying on it every day, keeping up on maintenance can reduce costs long term. Dirty chains destroy the cogs (inexpensive) and drive train (expensive), stretched chains cause gear slippage and inefficient power delivery, worn tires increase chances of flats and reduce grip, and worn pads reduce stopping ability, which could result in nastier accidents.

          If you’re riding a lot, keep up on maintenance, just like you would with a car. If it’s just occasionally like once or twice/month, you can probably get away with some neglect.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      Not to mention that modern cars contain multiple computers. Those computers include DRM, making it a felony to bypass them.

  • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    I’m disabled in a way that means I can’t use one, but can use a car, which kinda sucks.

    Fortunately bike infrastructure usually helps me in my chair, so I’m all in favor of wider bike adoption.

    • BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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      9 months ago

      I don’t know your limitations, but you’d be surprised at the number of ways cycling can be made accessible.

      For example, there are handbikes that attach to a wheelchair. As with all assistive tech it depends on your specific situation what is possible.

  • sheetzoos@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    The auto industry will fight tooth and nail to avoid anything that impacts their revenue generation.

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    A related question: why is the “big tough guy” image a guy in a truck?

    Like, you push a pedal with your foot to make your vehicle go vroom vroom. A granny could do that.

    Surely a tough guy is a guy who is straining huge muscles to make a bike hit 50 km/h. A skilled guy is one who can maneuver his bike down a narrow mountain-bike track.

    Imagine looking back in history and seeing a dude being carried around in a sedan chair and thinking that was the ideal image of masculinity, rather than the surely jacked dudes carrying him.

  • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Bikes are awesome. I would love to experience the joy of waking up in the morning and riding a bike to work. No traffic, healthy and all that good shit. I live, however, 40min away from my work by car and 3 hours by bike, one way. I dont see this changing in the foreseeable future so my idea of freedom has to be something different.

  • letsgo@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    A bicycle gives you freedom of lightweight activities within a few miles of your home. You want to play baritone sax in the band 25 miles away? It’s not happening with a bike.

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      9 months ago

      The 25 miles is a bit much, but if your instrument/sporting gear can fit in a bag, you can carry it on a bike. There’s backpacks for guitars, cellos and tubas and I regularly see kids cycling to their lessons with those. This is a fairly dense town though, so 5km max (20 minutes at child-speeds). Kids also can’t drive cars, so if it’s not happening by bike, it’s not happening at all.

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      9 months ago

      For me? Yeah 25 miles is a bit much depending on how regular that commute is. Once a week, maybe. Once a day, like a job? 5 miles tops is my limit. But I’ve heard of people doing 20-25 mile work commutes before.

  • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    Cars are the ultimate symbol of freedom because you just get in and go wherever to do whatever.

    Pick nanna up? sure. Go buy her groceries? Sure. In the pouring rain? Ok. Pick up her dog from the vet? Yep. Drop by the garden store and grab 50kg of fertilizer? You bet.

    You can do all of those things with out any planning or notice. You just get in and go wherever the day takes you.

    I’m a bit bonkers about bikes. I have a cargo e-bike. It absolutely could do all of these things in separate trips. Doing all of them together would be a challenge but I am 100% here for that so long as nanna is. The main difference is planning. You need different gear, like a bike trailer for example. You’re also probably going to pick the right time of day, like early before it gets too hot or too windy, provided that it’s not raining.

    • uis@lemm.ee
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      Cars are the ultimate symbol of freedom because you just get in and go wherever to do whatever.

      Pick nanna up? sure. Go buy her groceries? Sure. In the pouring rain? Ok. Pick up her dog from the vet? Yep. Drop by the garden store and grab 50kg of fertilizer? You bet.

      In such case most freedom has form of freight train.

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        9 months ago

        Or passenger train. One that can go long distances, isn’t limited by your physical ability, and can remain climate controlled so my ice cream doesn’t melt on a 20 minute bike ride in the summer. Also time, if I’m at a party and we need more drinks or whatever, being gone for an hour to bike there and back isn’t the best.

  • Agent641@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Cop pulls you over on a bicycle:

    “Drivers License and registration please”

    “I don’t need those, I’m not driving this bicycle, I’m travelling on it officer. Private conveyance. I don’t contract with DMV.”

    “Right you are sir, have a nice day!”

    Why haven’t the sovcits cottoned on to this loophole?!

  • heavydust@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    inexpensive

    lol, most bikes nowadays cost $1000. Also stolen every time so you have to call Uber. Also can’t get groceries or take the highway.

    less likely to kill

    More likely to be killed.

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      9 months ago

      The average American spends $10k YEARLY on car. You could buy a new bike every month and still end up paying less.