[email protected] mods once again proving their incapacity to host a space for “world” news.
Terminology citation
Under Canada’s Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, the terms government and Government of Canada refer specifically to the prime minister, Cabinet, and other members of the governing party inside the House of Commons, but typically includes the federal public service and federal departments and agencies when used elsewhere.[7] This differs from the United States, where the executive branch is referred to as an administration and the federal government encompasses executive, legislative, and judicial powers, similar to the Canadian Crown.
Emphasis mine. In particular I note that capitalization is not a factor. The fact that Voroxpete didn’t specify “capital G Government” doesn’t make a difference as I originally thought when reading.
When trolling and uncivil doesn’t work, try misinformation lol
bro leave it be
The point of this community is also to have some accountability for the mods. Let’s see what the people I pinged say.
Sure, my non-mod opinion of anyone stating an elected member of government is somehow not a member of government would, by our own rules, be removed as an ableist slur.
I’ll let you guess which one.
Hello @[email protected],
Based on all of the answers below from Canadians citizens, it seems that the comment you removed was correct in the Canadian definition of the government, so not misinformation. Could you please consider restoring it?
Hello,
I’m affraid [email protected] is correct. Since the Liberal party has the majority, it is, by definition, a Liberal government.
You know, it’s okay to be wrong sometimes. And it makes you a bigger person to admit that you are wrong.
I feel sorry about how this thread went the way it did with toxic replies, and removed comments and user bans. And, as a mod, I don’t think it’s a good idea to remove comments or ban users whom you disagree with. And even if they really are wrong, if their intent isn’t to spread propaganda and hate, it doesn’t warrant their comments being removed or them being banned. This is ridiculous. This shows a certain lack of maturity. Everyone needs to take a step back and think about what happened.
Not Canadian, but the Canadian terminology described above is common in other parliamentary democracies as well.
In Sweden, where I live, members of parliament (ledamöter) will be said to be part of government if they are a member of one of the governing parties (these parties will have ministers in the government/cabinet), a supporting party if they voted in favour of the government (these parties do not have ministers in government but generally vote in favour of government propositions) and opposition if they abstained or voted against (these parties usually vote against government propositions).
Generally, MPs not member of the ruling parties will not be called “members of government”, particularly members of the opposition.
I think the issue here is simply not being familiar with politics & governance outside the US.
Indeed, similar with the other democracies I’m familiar with (France, Spain)
Same in Australia, they would be part of the Shadow Ministry/Shadow Cabinet.
We’d call them politicians, but not government.
Asking for other Canadian citizens, as the justification provided in the thread seems correct https://lemmy.world/comment/14009536
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Well I’m not an expert but my understanding matches the cited terminology. Elected representatives as the guy from NDP are called MPs - members of parliament. Unless they’re a part of the governing party or cabinet ministers, they’re literally not governing. They’re simply not responsible and don’t have the authority to deal with government issues. E.g. if there’s a postal workers strike, it’s not their responsibility to order the workers back to work. The asshole doing that is the labor minister, an MP of the governing party - the LPC. Non-government MPs vote on proposed legislation among other things.
I think you summarized it well.
Thanks !
Thank you for confirming. I’ll wait until tomorrow and ping the mod again
They removed a comment essentially saying “I’m Canadian” as misinformation? Do Canadians not exist?
jordanlund knows a truth we aren’t strong enough to accept, clearly
Ugh, I knew it’d be Jordanlund before I saw the instance. I like them as a fellow forum user, but they should NOT be moderating anything. They remove comments they disagree with and use the moderation reason as a “you’re wrong and my opinion is the final word now” field. Absolutely bullshit.
I could see their tendencies working well in NCD, r/atheism or another community with a very specific vision and focus from leadership.
not world news though lmao
Canada is a country made up for the comedy TV series Letterkenny.
FUCKING EMBARRASSING!
Canadians are a hoax perpetrated by the Scottish to sell cold weather.
I mean, just listen to that accent. Clearly made up.
Come on don’t tell me you believe they’re real? No one can survive weather that cold. It’s an obvious fairy tail.
Now they know how i feel as an aussie. If im an actor wheres my paycheck.
How bad must it be for New Zealanders? Their entire country doesn’t exist.
Lemmy.nz exists. No lemmy.usa as far as I know. Does this mean the USA do not exist? /s
On a more serious note, there is [email protected]
There’s lemmyusa.com, though that one is relatively new.
3 users, 2 posts (it says, but only see 1?), 1 community
Only 1 admin, though looks like a joint account.
Strictly Photon UI though, not base Lemmy?
Neat sidebar text (for those who can find it:-).
We’ll see I suppose.
Well at least everyone knows not to put a fake country like theirs on the map.
Now they don’t!
Don’t tell me, you still believe in Canada 🤣
I’ve often stood in the south shore of Lake Superior, straining my eyes, wondering what’s on the other side of that vast expanse of water. They say that’s where Canada is. I’ve never seen it, I don’t think it actually exists
As usual,
Thanks for consistently sharing those two links.
We should probably make an announcement somewhere at some point, so that they become known once and for all
I had a Turkish news post that I translated REMOVED
will post them in here from now on
*bin-friendly links:
I’ve said this before, I’ll say this again. [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected] (all of which are run by roughly the same group of mods), is a growing cancer in the fediverse.
Alternatives: [email protected] [email protected]
Some other news communities:
- [email protected] - not available to people on Lemmy.World or sh.itjust.works
- [email protected] - still Lemmy.World but different mods and focus
PTB + CML (with respect to Canadian politics) on this one I think.
i concur.
fine to be clueless on occasion, i myself have been that way at many points. not fine to be unwilling to do 5 seconds of research before
banningremoving for misinformation.
“misinformation” shouldn’t be a removable rule lol, unless it’s about a specific conspiracy, misinformation can be wrongly enforced due to one ignorance. This is no different than tankie bs.
As a Canadian, no lol
One dumb mod doesn’t make or break the need for misinformation to be removed
I think people need to start saying:
Government of Canada (aka: The Prime Minister & Cabinet, and Members of Legislature supporting thereof)
thats true, how dare anyone use language differently from the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥
