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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:57:55 +0200 [thread overview]

Note this is a rather old topic.

The article says “One could argue that their process was similar, in principle, to that of white-hat hacking: play around with software, find bugs, let the developers know.”. I’m not buying this crap; what the university of Minnesota did was closer to an adult randomly beating the neighbourhood’s kids, stealing their money, and then someone claiming “he’s teaching them self defence”. It is completely unethical and immoral.

I also think both Greg and Dolan were pushovers, trying to be reasonable and co-operative towards a clearly hostile entity. And, in the process, bringing guns to a sword fight:

• submissions with a umn.edu address should not be “default” rejected; they should not be accepted at all. If you belong to a hostile entity you don’t get to put on your CV “I contriboot with OS projex”
• Dolan’s demands boil down to “help us to fix your mess, don’t benefit from it, and ensure it won’t happen again”. That’s the bare minimum.

That’s a common discussion in my family, with the added take of piracy. Basically, my sister not getting why my BIL and me download the songs/albums we enjoy, since Spotify exists. Or why I created a LAN to listen to downloaded stuff from my kitchen. And I often half-joke that, eventually, she’ll only listen to the stuff my BIL likes — as all her favs will be locked in a platform she won’t be able/willing to access.

Same deal with anime. I’m not ashamed to say I have 1600 episodes in my hard disk. I don’t download everything I watch (because… well, I do watch a lot of junk), but if I feel in the mood to re-watch something, it means I should avoid losing it, so I download it.

Of course, you could do all of that without piracy, if you got the bees’n’honey (unlike me). Or go for a middle ground; back in the 90s we used to record tracks playing on the radio in K7 casette tapes, while still buying official ones for artists we really enjoyed, so this isn’t exactly new.

At this rate I’m calling dibs on your nickname 🤣

The continuity between Roman/Latin paganism and Christianity in special is rather evident for me: the fate of the dead, the idea of sacrifice, the mystery cults and all that “your god is to the East!”…

Fuck! I misread you. Yes, you’re right, Tim Sweeney is supporting CSAM.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, undeserved crankiness, and defensiveness; I thought you were claiming I was the one doing it. That was my bad. (In my own defence, someone already did it.)

Now, giving you a proper answer: yeah, Epic is better sent down the forgetting hole. And I hope Sweeney gets haunted by his own words for years and years to come.

Nobody here is supporting CSAM. Learn to read, dammit.

… …then I ruined your joke. Sorry.

The tablet to Ea-nāṣir, right? That’s from Ur (modern Iraq), and at least a century older, perhaps four.

(The tablet to Ea-nāṣir was dated from 1750 BCE. I’m not sure on the exact date of the tablet in the OP, but the site ranges from 1200 to 1650 BCE.)

As Drusas said, it’s an Indo-European language. From a rather distant branch of the family, called Anatolian:

The main language of the tablet (Hittite) is also Anatolian.

Yes, it certainly comes across as you arguing for the opposite

No, it does not. Stop being a liar.

Or, even better: do yourself a favour and go offline. Permanently. There’s already enough muppets like you: assumptive pieces of shit lacking basic reading comprehension, but still eager to screech at others — not because of what the others actually said, but because of what they assumed over it. You’re dead weight in any serious discussion, probably in some unserious ones too, and odds are you know it.

Also, I’m not wasting my time further with you, go be functionally illiterate elsewhere.

I wish I was as composed as you. You’re still calmly explaining things to that dumb fuck, while they move the goalposts back and forth:

• first they lie I was saying there were no victims;
• then they backpedal and say “It doesn’t matter if there’s a victim or not. It’s the depiction of CSA that is illegal.”;
• then they backpedal again and say what boils down to “talking about morals bad! Also I’ll talk about MY morals. I don’t see moral difference when people are harmed and when they’re not” (inb4 I’m abridging it)

All of that while they’re still pretending to argue the same point. It reminds me a video from the Alt-Right Playbook, called “never play defence”: make dumb claim, waste someone else’s time expecting them to rebuke that dumb claim, make another dumb claim, waste their time again, so goes on.

The Switch is definitely the last of their console I buy for the foreseeable future.

I’m glad the last Nintendo console I had was the SNES. Everything else was emulated.

But good news for Nintendo, I stopped pirating their games, they’re mostly junk nowadays. (I pirated PalWorld and I’m considering to buy it.)

That’s because the third season will handle at least the volumes 13 to 17 of the light novel, and there’s a lot of content in those. But if anything, I’m predicting it’ll cover only five chapters (while s1 and s2 covered six chapters each).

I’m saying this because I’m predicting they’ll try to give an anime version for the whole series, since it’s extremely popular in Japan. However, it has 26 volumes, and that doesn’t split evenly into sixes.

There are two solutions for that:

• make s3 and s4 seven volumes each. But then s3 will feel rushed.
• make s3 five volumes, s4 six volumes, then release a s5 with a single cour.

I’m predicting they’ll do the later.

Tim EpicFail.

And here’s the trailer, from six months ago. Season 3 seems to focus rather heavily on Eris’ comeback, and events around it.

For those who didn’t read the novel: all you need to know is that the events are way more fun than the ones that popped up in the second season.

That is a lot of text for someone that couldn’t even be bothered to read the first paragraph of the article.

Grok has the ability to take photos of real people, including minors, and produce images of them undressed or in otherwise sexually compromising positions, flooding the site with such content.

There ARE victims, lots of them.

You’re only rewording what I said in the third paragraph, while implying I said the opposite. And bullshitting/assuming/lying I didn’t read the text. (I did.)

Learn to read dammit. I’m saying this shit Grok is doing is harmful, and that people ITT arguing “is this CSAM?” are missing the bloody point.

Is this clear now?

IMO commenters here discussing the definition of CSAM are missing the point. Definitions are working tools; it’s fine to change them as you need. The real thing to talk about is the presence or absence of a victim.

Non-consensual porn victimises the person being depicted, because it violates the person’s rights over their own body — including its image. Plus it’s ripe material for harassment.

This is still true if the porn in question is machine-generated, and the sexual acts being depicted did not happen. Like the sort of thing Grok is able to generate. This is what Timothy Sweeney (as usual, completely detached from reality) is missing.

And it applies to children and adults. The only difference is that adults can still consent to have their image shared as porn; children cannot. As such, porn depicting children will be always non-consensual, thus always victimising the children in question.

Now, someone else mentioned Bart’s dick appears in the Simpsons movie. The key difference is that Bart is not a child, it is not even a person to begin with, it is a fictional character. There’s no victim.

EDIT: I’m going to abridge what I said above, in a way that even my dog would understand:

What Grok is doing is harmful, there are victims of that, regardless of some “ackshyually this is not CSAM lol lmao”. And yet you guys keep babbling about definitions?

Everything else I said here was contextualising and detailing the above.

Is this clear now? Or will I get yet another lying piece of shit (like @[email protected]) going out of their way to misinterpret what I said?

(I don’t even have a dog.)

Dunno if sold outside the southern cone, but I recommend the IPAs from the brand Patagonia. They do have some fruitiness, but it’s kind of subtle, and you only feel it after all that typical IPA bitterness.

Both this and the “Final Chapter” you shared in another comment are genuinely interesting. I love how you actually gave her some personality, since my prompt had nothing in this direction. She sounds stubborn, serious, meticulous. And no, they don’t sound like Twilight at all.

Modest Skill “Tidying Up” is the Strongest! ~ Corporate Slave Office Lady Started An Accidental Isekai Revolution, and is Now Adored by the Head Knight and His Majesty the Emperor

Wow. Let me try to fix this:

The Revolution of the Office Janitor ~ She Got the Weakest Skills and Now She’s Adored by Everyone in Another World

I didn’t read the slop (nor I will), but lemme build some simple setup:

Saitou Kiyomi is a 44yo office janitor of a black company in Tokyo. She likes her job, but hates everything around it: the lack of proper working conditions, the ungratefulness of other workers there, the messy working hours, the boss dumping into her odd jobs she was not supposed to (like paperwork, bringing him coffee, taking care of children)…

Then one day, going back from work 2AM, she finds a kitty. Craving for some company, she brings it home. Then she drinks a few too many cans of beer, and tells it her sorry story, without knowing the cat is actually a spirit in disguise. The spirit feels sorry for her and offers to reincarnate her into the magic world of Gahaski, where your experiences are crystallised into skills. And since she worked as a janitor for her whole life, she gets two skills:

1. Clean - magically removes dirt
2. Tidy - magically places something into its proper place.

Those skills rely on what she considers as “dirt” or the “proper place” of something, so they’re extremely overpowered. One of the first things she does in the new world is to look herself at the mirror, and notice how old she was… when she said “damn, I wish I could clean some years off my face”, the cleaning magic activated and she became a 18yo. “Tidy” could be used to disarm opponents, by sending their weapons to the “proper place”; or even to jail criminals automatically.