• atocci@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I got the Surface Pro X a few years ago purely for battery life, performance be damned. Great decision, and it fit my use-case perfectly. Maybe a little too perfectly for Qualcomm, because I have no reason to upgrade to something more performant when all I cared about was the battery life.

    Edit: This recent push towards Windows on ARM is also benefiting these old WOA devices. Programs that would barely run before (because they were compiled for x86 and had to be emulated on a chip that could hardly handle all that extra overhead) are now getting native ARM version releases that run way better. In my experience, my Pro X’s performance has effectively been improving as time goes on, so I have even less of a reason to get anything new.

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      4 months ago

      So let’s keep making phones thinner and thinner while simultaneously growing the camera bump instead of making a flat profile with, say, 2 days of life!

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        4 months ago

        You’re missing something though: phone cell or battery capacity has been getting bigger, not smaller. The issue isn’t the batteries, it’s the other hardware and software needing more and more energy. Modern phones are much faster, have better screens at higher resolution, brightness, even refresh rate. All of this uses energy, even with modern technology being as awesome as it is. Qualcomm, TSMC, ARM, and Apple put quite a bit of work into making these things as efficient as they can be, but we keep demanding more and more from these devices. For many they replaced laptops after all.

        It’s a bit like complaining that your new ultra high performance sports car is getting bad range, and complaining about the fuel tank or battery instead of the engine. The tank has only gotten bigger or at least stayed the same, but the engine has gotten hungrier and hungrier with each generation.

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          4 months ago

          That’s a contributing factor to battery life remaining stagnant. Manufacturers use those advances while continuing to slim phones rather than making an actually flat brick that uses those advances to drastically increase battery life. Regardless of the energy needs of the phone manufacturers can use the difference in height between the back of a phone and the camera bump to include more battery capacity and it will increase both the daily and usable life of the phone.

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        4 months ago

        So on one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, I think lightness is a thing people care about. I recently needed to get some photos backed up off an old phone of mine, and I didn’t realize how heavy my current one is until I picked up my old one. Thinness is irrelevant, but a 50% weight difference is not. Other than that, I don’t think most people get much utility out of more than a day of battery life, so 1.5 days new degrading down to 1 seems reasonable and in line with what most people want.

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            3 months ago

            Well, cheap or not, but in terms of fitting into my pocket a fat rubber-covered dumbphone is better than a modern thin and light one. That plate is just inconvenient. It’s too big. I don’t care how thin it is. A newspaper is thin too.

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            4 months ago

            I agree for first impressions that heavier is perceived as more premium, but after months of actually using a device I can’t fathom that a reasonable person would actually prefer a heavier phone given an equivalent, lighter phone. Even Apple, king of making devices with mass appeal, decided last year that shedding weight was a priority when moving some iPhones from aluminum to titanium.

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          4 months ago

          I have a Samsung A71. It permanently lives in its protective case which gives it good bumpers around the easily-breakable edge-to-edge screen. It’s now 4 years old and has survived numerous tumbles and drops over the years.

          Occasionally I have to swap the SD card in it and I am always astonished at how thin and light and fragile it is when not in the case.

          I would quite happily have an actual similar size phone to what “I have now” if the battery size was bumped up another 50 percent.

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            4 months ago

            You’re blaming the wrong thing again. Newer phones have higher capacity batteries than the old bricks by far. The issue is the screen, SoC, and modem power consumption has gone up too.

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              3 months ago

              In the phone world, the jump in capacity that modern phones have from my 4370mAh battery in my A71 is negligible. They haven’t increased power density much because that way leads to fires and lawsuits when users bend or otherwise damage their ridiculously fragile phones

              My point was, if modern phones had the physical space that my phone + case has, they could have a bigger battery, and that bigger battery would then power all the hungry, hungry electronics.

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      4 months ago

      My phone has a 22000mAh battery. I never consider charging it unless I’m going to the woods overnight, and then only to be sure I have a power bank.

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    4 months ago

    I have actually come to prefer using AI instead of a search engine at work for most things sysadmin related (using DuckDuckGo’s AI chat feature), but I 100% have found that Copilot performs far worse than competing products. Having it that engrained in the computer is a very negative feature, despite the battery improvements.

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      4 months ago

      Copilot sucks. Gemeni is a sassy teenager. Chatgpt 4o is actually halfway decent. When they announced Gemeni had a million context tokens, that was awesome. But it can’t give coherent output to save its life. Useless.

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        4 months ago

        “Chatgpt 4o is actually halfway decent.”

        I think I need to redo my parameters cuz you aren’t the first person I’ve seen say this. I wasconvinced it got dumber lol

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          4 months ago

          It got worse. We adapted parameters to try to compensate. You didn’t do anything wrong. You’ve just not yet implemented continuous improvement.

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    4 months ago

    I spent a good 20 minutes trying to remove copilot from my windows 10 machine last night. It embedded itself into the taskbar, the edge explorer, and I finally had to go into system components to disable it. No doubt there will be another ms update that will revert all these settings again

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      4 months ago

      I spent a good 20 minutes trying to remove copilot from my windows 10 machine last night.

      On Windows 11 you can just uninstall it. I did. Win10 is old and about to be unsupported.