I can see some changes with Trump in office. If they try the whole mass deportation thing I can see a lot of raids and things like that happening.

But probably not a huge amount.

Hopefully this one sticks around and can replace AMPLife. That sub has too many location posts and recently has had some hidden camera scumbag posts.

I’m surprised that sub has lasted as long as it has. I expected it to get nuked from orbit weeks ago.

It does seem like the hidden video stuff has died down some so maybe the mods are cracking down. I just wish they would crack down on the location questions so we could get some real discussion.

As for your USASG point, same. I posted about the same issue a while back here and basically gave up. TER (which I think you might have recommended) did help some, but most of the massage places on there near me just didn’t appeal to what I wanted.

So now I’m just looking at STG, USASG (without being able to contribute) and Google Maps.

I’m curious about what her end goal is here. Why not give you the shop address? It doesn’t make sense.

I have had two times to where I’ve gone to a place I know will have HEs and didn’t go for it. But only two times. One place I just didn’t get good vibes from, the other place I walked in and saw a grandma chilling in a chair by the entrance and heard what I assume was the grandpa coughing in a random room in the back.

Both places had better than average actual massages and one of them had a gross table shower that made it so I was glad I didn’t linger.

There are two places among the sea of places near me that have the best looking MTs in the area. And I think they know it.

One place near me has two of the hottest in the area. One is slimmer but with great tits. She’s obviously older, maybe 40+ but her face is pretty and she isn’t sagging or gray. But she has been upstaged by a newer MT in the same place for me. Better face, nicer body (to me anyway) and bigger boobs. I am hooked.

The other place has one MT that is basically perfect if you want someone on the slimmer side. Great face, small but good breasts and a crazy ass for how slim she is. Every time I’m there I gravitate towards that wagon. And it is enhanced by the boy shorts and skirts she loves to wear.

I’m a fairly new monger, I have been at it for a year or so. But in that time I have been at most of the places I can find in my area that aren’t AAMPs. I’ve only three numbers though. More because I am sensitive to risk. I don’t a lot of obvious ties to illegal activity if I can help it. That is part of the reason I haven’t taken the AAMP plunge even if it isn’t entirely logical.

Definitely time to cut bait. It sounds like things are rough for her (assuming the stories are actually true which I suspect they aren’t) but this sounds like a pit you don’t want to go down.

Hopefully you’re using a burner or app so that you can block her easily.

How were the showers? This is something that has tempted me with AAMPs. My goal would be a shower where groping and general touching is the main part of the shower.

It is one thing that is missing from AMPs, at least in my area. I get the MP’s hands on me with a table shower but it is hard to actually touch them during it. And during a massage, I can only get so much hands on time. Even with AMPs that will do FS, it feels like the MT doesn’t want a lot of groping and touching. My current ATF for example will try to go immediately for FS and won’t want to deal with a lot of touching.

You’re probably right, but it feels like to me it would be easier to make that argument if I’m in the hotel or house of someone who I don’t know and don’t have much reason to be there versus a business in an area zoned for business.

And even if they can’t make the legal argument and convict me, they may be able to arrest me and investigate. Which would have impacts on my life as well even if I am ultimately “proven” innocent.

I will probably take the plunge eventually. I just haven’t done it yet.

My understanding is that it is hard for mongers to get busted. Because at the end of the day, they would have to catch you in the act. And unless they set up a sting or surveillance in the place, the most they can say is that you were there. And you can successfully argue that you were just there for a massage.

It’s one reason why I’m so wary about AAMPs. If I’m at a pace with a business license in a commercial area like a strip mall, I feel like the plausible deniability is high enough to outweigh the risk.

But if I’m in someone’s house or a hotel room, it feels like it is much harder to deny.

Thanks for the recommendation. Will have to take a closer look at TER. It seemed more for escorts, but the lines are so blurred between that and an AMP so hopefully I can find something with good info that I can actually participate in.

I really need to try an AAMP. I got close and then backed out.

Regarding places that have been busted being crossed off your list, do you feel that they will likely be a target of LE again?

That was my thought at first. These places aren’t exactly discrete. They reopen in the same places, all look the same and have the same clientele. It seems like if they have already been busted, any LE department should essentially have them on speed dial to crack down on again.

But then last night as I was looking up some things I found the place that used to be my favorite was busted a few years ago. And I went there for months this year with no problem. So I am changing my mind on that.

If they’re anything like the places near me, they’ll come back in the same location before long.

I don’t understand it, but there are at least three places near me that have news stories about getting busted that are now open. I personally don’t go to them though. Once they’ve been busted, they’re off my list.

I have found maybe 75% of what I want but I still consider what I’ve found an ATF. Attractive enough MTs, they wear skirts instead of leggings, decent assets, they get naked and I’ve gotten everything from an HJ, to BBJ to an impulsive BBFS that I was not asking for and that I am planning on getting tested for (despite there being no symptoms so far). All with reasonable prices, no haggling, and decent teasing. Honestly the only things this place doesn’t have that I want is a table shower and thicker MTs.

How much have I paid? It’s honestly hard to count. After a little over six months of the hobby, maybe $2.5k with going maybe every week and a half on average. But at the highest three times in a seven day period (different AMPs obviously) because I didn’t get what I wanted the first two places and didn’t achieve my goals (besides the obvious benefit, I’m using AMPs for a reason so if I don’t achieve my mini goals I feel like it wasn’t worth it).

I don’t understand how anyone could let their relationship get so bad where this is just no sex. Maybe if you’re old old, but even then I would think there would be some.

I find it weird that you count cops possibly coming as a risk for AMPs but not AAMPs.

For me, it seems like it is the exact opposite. An AMP is a legit business. They have permits and are in a commercially zoned area and everything. I don’t have to call them or put anything in writing. If cops kicked down the door mid jerk, there isn’t any evidence of wrongdoing.

But AAMPs are residential areas or hotels. If I walk in and there’s a cop there, I can’t say that I was just there for a massage. The only way to even get there is through sites that pretty explicitly say they are for sexual services.

That risk is one of the reasons I’m hesitating trying out an AAMP. It just feels like the risk is too high. Meanwhile, the main risks with AMPs are that I won’t get what I want and that there could be a hidden camera. But considering that a hidden camera is also an even more likely possibility at an AAMP, that doesn’t seem like a unique risk.

I’m still circling the drain when it comes to trying an AAMP. I will do it sooner or later. But for now, a good AMP seems much safer than any AAMP.

There’s a dude there who posts what looks like hidden camera footage of his time at AMPs and with escorts in order to shill his paid Telegram. All it would take is one report of that and that sub would be nuked from orbit.

Learn is an exaggeration. I just used Google Translate to learn how to kind of pronounce good afternoon and thanks in Mandarin. I’m hoping to learn a few more basic words and phrases. Like I said, I felt bad that I couldn’t tell the MT in a way she could understand that stopping was fine.

It was absolutely unexpected. I almost hesitated posting this because it felt like some of the obviously fake stories from the other sub. Good luck on the search.