I don’t really feel like a protracted exchange where you move goalposts around

this accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith

your theory and how pleased you are, now that it’s succeeded

you’re putting word in my mouth.

Nobody is making up the crowd that pretended only Democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse.

yes they are, and if that weren’t the case you would have been able to show it

The comment that started this accusation said:

Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…

which prompted the response:

Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …

and a furth explanation:

There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse

to which i said:

you’re making that up.

and the rest of the thread has been bickering about whether, in fact, they made that up. the accusation is that, since the election, the people opposed to genocide who wanted to exert electoral pressure, who were also people who were pretending only democrats could have responsibility AND that trump could not be worse, have since disappeared. i know that’s a lot of commas. lets make this a bit clearer:

the accusation is that

there are people who

• (a)oppose genocide
• (b)wanted to exert electoral pressure on the democrats
• ©were pretending only democrats could have responsibility
• (d)believed that trump could not be worse

and that those people

• (e)disappeared after the election.

what you provided was evidence that, in fact, those people don’t exist, and to the extent that people who met criteria a-c may have existed (it’s still not clear they held this belief prior to the election), they did not, also fulfill criteria (e).

so despite your aptitude for verbosity and markdown syntax, your comment is, also, not evidence.

edit: i made a few syntactic edits to this, but as i’m now reading it for the 12th time or so, i don’t actually think we have evidence of anyone fulfilling criteria c in addition to a and b.

game theory doesn’t determine human behavior or elections, which depend on human behavior

then it should be easy to find your evidence.

I can’t possibly prove something doesn’t exist. You’re claiming there is evidence that something does exist, it’s on you to provide that evidence.

if it was so easy, you would do it and support your own claims. this is not evidence, it’s hand waving.

can you show me?

you’re making that up.

reducing your animal produce intake for the benefit of the environment

has never reduced animal product production.

That’s right, everyone sit on their hands and do nothing

this is a strawman.

if i told you spinning in circles would help the planet, and i presented a study with dubious methodology, would you spend your time and energy spinning til you made yourself sick, or would you look for an actual solution?

no

disengage

But you’re more concerned with “winning” than the truth.

i’m only concerned with the truth.

and are actively trying to persuade people not to be vegans.

never. i don’t care if you are vegan. i only care if you spread spurious arguments to promote it.

this is, once again, poore-nemecek 2018 in new packaging. i wish we could get good science to tell us the best way to help the planet.