Kind of just felt like sparking a discussion thread and thought this might be an interesting one.
For me personally, one of, if not, my most controversial takes is that I will associate with anyone. Regardless of their opinions of if I personally find their opinions to be disgusting or revolting. I will give anyone respect who gives me respect.
Another one which I’ve expressed here before is that I do not think someone simply being a pedophile automatically makes them a pure evil child abuser who can’t help but rape every child that they see. And that some people can have this affliction and not actively seek out abusive content or attempt abusive actions.
My opinions on loli/shota/cub are also fairly controversial, but I imagine those are mostly shared by the majority of people here.
That should probably get us started pretty good!
So, What’s a controversial take that you have that most people would disagree with?
Feel free to have peaceful discussions about other people’s responses.
I don’t like lettuce on my burgers. Every time I’ve had it it’s just soggy and wet and it’s been ruined for me.
The US gov is actually very lenient and respectful with Trump, he was given a lot of opportunities to not get in trouble, and the current indictments are only happening because Trump is an extraordinary moron. Nothing anyone else did recently with classified docs even compares. Trump did everything to provoke this and more.
I think a few decades down the road, no offence pedophilia will be destigmatized like being gay was. There was an old stigma that being gay meant that you were the type of person who who go around raping males (homosexual was used much like pedophile is). I think that in a few decades, people will say it was morally unjust to do the things that are being done to the non-offenders of today.
I don’t think it will be. I do hope that its pervasiveness will be recognized by average people, and we will stop treating me them like monsters.
All sexual taboos are latent in human sexuality.
There was actually an old stigma that being gay was the same thing as being a pedophile.
Doritos are awful overrated garbage
Gatekeeping is a good thing. Once something gets popular it attracts more attention, and that’s very bad for a small culture. Not to mention once there’s capital in the water the suits show up and take over.
Humans are bad, and not (just) in a hippie kinda way. As a product of totally random processes we’re kinda cool, as an actual design the body is absolutely horrible. The brain is an amazing computer, but it takes down right bizarre shortcuts. We as a species need to be working towards fixing the failures of biology.
Looks like I’m on the same page with a lot of people here.
- How pedophilia is treated in (US) society leads to repressed, unstable people who are more likely to harm children than if it didn’t have as much stigma. Harming real kids is a hard line that should not be crossed, but as long as people can enjoy violent gory horror without becoming a serial killer, people should be able to get off on whatever fantasies they like. Same applies to any alt-sex stuff, really: incest, zoophilia.
- Reality is subjective, the only way objectivity can exist is under subjectively defined parameters. And the really controversial part of this; I think those who can’t see how made-up everything is are egotistical and/or lacking in empathy; you can’t go through life and think everything you don’t understand or don’t believe is incorrect without a very narrow view of the world.
- Sugary things are gross.
- Military service should be mandatory. Every individual needs to understand that wartime deaths aren’t numbers from a news article, that you, your friends, and your family’s lives aren’t any more special than theirs. It would also improve both military and civilian culture if every able-bodied adult from all walks of life had to learn how to coexist and work together for a year or two.
- Basically every third person AAA game made in the past decade is ruined by squishy and unresponsive controls - including games that supposedly handle well like Dark Souls. I want direct, mechanical controls, not strung-together QTEs. (MHW < MH4U)
- Mid-late 2000s/early 2010s pop is as dumb and fun as 80s pop.
- The concept of identity is extremely harmful and a detriment to society. Gender, race, and sexuality are the obvious hot-button manifestations, but also any beliefs along the lines of ‘I am a person who is x’. Be multifaceted person you are, treat others as the complex individuals who they are, don’t try to shove everything into these boxes so you can make judgements (and then complain about the subsequent cognitive dissonance). I don’t particularly agree with the communist parts, but this article does a great job at putting into words my issues with identity.
When a mind believes it’s the opposite gender of the body it inhabits - that seems like the textbook definition of a mental illness.
I’m not saying such people should be discriminated against, hated, threatened, or shamed in any way - I think they should be loved and supported just like anyone with any other mental illness. But somehow it’s basically a hate crime now to call it that, and everyone is pretending it’s the same as a sexual preference like being lesbian/gay/bi.
LGB is simply a spectrum for who you’re attracted to - T is a complete disconnect between your body and ego. If that isn’t a ‘mental illness’ then those words have no meaning.
You beat me on two of them, Disa
+There’s a difference between an active pedophile going around raping kids, and someone who’s sexually attracted to minors but knows it’s fucked up and doesn’t do that. Buddy of mine’s in that situation (well, with animals instead of kids) and hates himself for it. It’s not his fault his brain’s wired that way.
+Loli/Shota are harmless and are just drawings at the end of the day. Liking them doesn’t make you a bad person nor a pedo (and if it does, I guess a lotta FPS players are gonna go to jail for manslaughter). More people really need to distinguish between reality and fiction, is all I’m saying.
But now for my totally original controversial take (it’s never been done before, promise):
+Cereal and Milk is fucking gross. (Yes, I eat it DRY). Actually, no, plain milk by itself is just disgusting…especially warm.
100% agreed, people can’t control how they are wired, they can only control their responses/actions to said wiring. It also doesn’t help that there’s well, no place these individuals can get help without having their whole life immediately ruined. Which makes it basically something they have to deal with alone. I have no doubt that causes a lot of people with these afflictions to become radicalized by finding communities which are not exactly anti-abuse.
The thing that makes no sense to me are the people who say that loli/shota/cub is somehow different than video games. They’ll go and use the exact arguments used against video games and use them against loli/shota/cub. And defend video games by using the exact logic that, if applied fairly, would also apply as defenses for loli/shota/cub. The individuals who do this seem to stop there and if you go and try to ask them why it’s different and why those arguments somehow work (or don’t work) against the thing they like, but somehow are different when applied to loli/shota/cub. In the end it usually gets boiled down to “I like this thing, whereas this other thing makes me uncomfortable.”
I don’t think i’ve ever heard of anyone eating cereal dry, is it good? Is it like eating chips, or like popcorn? Do you still use a spoon?
The intellectual property system is the reason we can’t have nice things.
i have to skip giving an opinion on your views about pedophilia because i dont feel that i could be respectfull.
i will say that my controversial take on something that alot of people disagee on is the way swiss rolls are supposed to be eaten.
the outer chocolate layer gets nibbled off first. then you slowly unravel the roll by eating from left to right until you have a cakey take filled with cream that is then eaten from straight on
As weird as it is to express, it wasn’t an opinion. It’s a fact. It’s controversial even in leftist spaces (brought up because they care about outcomes and mental health), but the stigma does prevent people from seeing therapy. Although that is a very careful balance that’d have to be reached to convince people to get help.
Not only that, but many therapists will not take pedophile clients due to lack of training, some might report them to police because they assume every pedophile is a child molester, and so they report them in order to protect themselves in the face of mandatory reporting laws, and others might take them, but only have training dealing with offending pedophiles. This makes it difficult and risky for a nonoffending pedophile to get a therapist, and even if they do, the therapist may not actually be able to help them. So, ironically, the current pedophile panic could actually be increasing risk to children.
