I wrote more around this here, but the primary awfulness is in the above link.
But rape apologies and such are a constant problem. That’s part of what broke Redneck Revolt, and part of what broke the IWW GDC (though there were a bunch of other things). With the organizing I did, we were pretty intentional but even then misogyny caused a lot of problems (though not through informants, just shitty dudes being such). The problems were mostly the standard things like not leaving space, interrupting, restating femme ideas as one’s own, etc. It definitely gets more complex when you’re having to mediate conflict across race and gender, etc. Personally, as I mentioned, I think the framing of conversations can be pretty problematic and can erase people before there’s even room to be more overtly discriminatory.
But the fact that there’s such blatantly misogynistic content even in the anarchist library today, without any kind of contextualization, is a solid indicator of the problem we’re facing. But if you’re an organizer, then you end up being a lot more familiar with the regular drama of abuse allegations around some person or another. Shit was bad 5 or 6 years ago, and I don’t assume it’s magically all gotten a bunch better.
Would you be open to sharing what kind of misogynistic content you’ve found in the anarchist library? I’ve been using that as a resource for learning and I’d rather, y’know, avoid the gross stuff that I may not have realized was gross
https://immerautonom.noblogs.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/
I wrote more around this here, but the primary awfulness is in the above link.
But rape apologies and such are a constant problem. That’s part of what broke Redneck Revolt, and part of what broke the IWW GDC (though there were a bunch of other things). With the organizing I did, we were pretty intentional but even then misogyny caused a lot of problems (though not through informants, just shitty dudes being such). The problems were mostly the standard things like not leaving space, interrupting, restating femme ideas as one’s own, etc. It definitely gets more complex when you’re having to mediate conflict across race and gender, etc. Personally, as I mentioned, I think the framing of conversations can be pretty problematic and can erase people before there’s even room to be more overtly discriminatory.
But the fact that there’s such blatantly misogynistic content even in the anarchist library today, without any kind of contextualization, is a solid indicator of the problem we’re facing. But if you’re an organizer, then you end up being a lot more familiar with the regular drama of abuse allegations around some person or another. Shit was bad 5 or 6 years ago, and I don’t assume it’s magically all gotten a bunch better.
Would you be open to sharing what kind of misogynistic content you’ve found in the anarchist library? I’ve been using that as a resource for learning and I’d rather, y’know, avoid the gross stuff that I may not have realized was gross
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/feral-faun-essays#toc10 https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-feminism-as-fascism
Just pulling from the linked essay, which talks about other problems as well.
Boy…those are some wild takes…
Yeah… There’s some really awful shit in there.