Hello comrades, a while ago I asked some questions regarding GTFO of Ukraine, and I’ve gathered some info on smuggling pricing and other stuff. tl;dr the only feasible way for me to escape is by foot on my own, so rn I’m biding my time to see how far I can wait into the internal collapse to minimize the risk of me being caught, as the longer the war goes the more AFU human resources shrink and therefore, in theory, it should be easier to escape. There is also a part of me that hopes for a collapse of the frontline or our economy as a whole in the near future. I don’t expect any peace deals to be signed any time soon, but I am optimistic - time may be on my side in this. Despite the lack of heating, power outages, inflation, and everything, I am not giving up hope, even if out of pure stubbornness. And what about you people? How’s it going as of late?

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    19·
    8 days ago

    Thinking of exit plans myself. Def not the same level or situation, but I feel like mass migration of people is building with all the shit our gov has stirred up in the world. Hell, I made a list ranking places around the world we might look into moving to… But I don’t want to leave my home.

    Really hope you can get out safely. Do you know land navigation with a compass? How far do you have to go? Lots of bushcraft/survivalist skills would be really useful to get you out of there. Any preferred destination once you’re out?

    • Envylike@lemmygrad.mlOP
      15·
      8 days ago
      1. sadly not yet, but I’ve been meaning to learn, though, since I quite literally work 7 days a week, learning stuff is difficult
      2. I live close to the border with Moldova, so I don’t have to cross half the country, fortunately.
      3. For now, the US - my wife and her polycule live there, they’re fortunate enough to just barely afford owning a house. Afterwards, not sure yet, but either Japan(most of us know the language at least partially, and some have work connections, so it’s an easy place to start), Costa Rica, China(assuming we find a way in), or Vietnam.
  • rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml
    15·
    7 days ago

    Thanks for the update! I really hope you make it!

    Also, not sure if you already considered Belarus, but I have read that they offer help to fleeing ukranians. They even posted this small cartoon. The translation of the billboard using Google Lens(this is for those that don’t speak russians and if you speak russian please correct my translation if you find it faulty) is:

    • ORDINARY UKRAINIANS FLEEING WAR! WE WELCOME YOU TO BELARUS! WE PROVIDE JOBS AND SOCIAL BENEFITS.

    As for me, fortunately everything has been fine except for Trump threatening to invade my country.

    • Envylike@lemmygrad.mlOP
      15·
      7 days ago

      While certainly an option, unfortunately, I’m almost as far away from Belarus as possible - I’m a southerner from Odesa, and Belarus is on our northern border. So that makes this significantly more complicated. Sorry to hear about Trump, and happy to hear it’s going well otherwise!

      • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
        16·
        7 days ago

        Be very careful comrade if you’re planning on crossing the Tisza or Dniester rivers to get to Hungary/Moldova/Romania. Especially now in winter it could be very risky and not just because of the cold. I read a lot of stories about people drowning, getting shot or getting caught by the regime while trying to escape. In summer you have more tree coverage which helps hide from border guards. I’m also not sure how much you can trust the current Romanian or Moldovan governments to not deport you back to Ukraine. Hungary and Belarus will definitely give you asylum. Unfortunately the border with Belarus is probably the most heavily surveilled, maybe even mined. I wish you the best of luck and i am truly sorry that you have to be in this situation. And i hope you make it through the blackouts ok.

  • Maeve @lemmygrad.ml
    11·
    8 days ago

    I’m so glad to hear from you and know you are safe! Thanks for the update, I hope you make it and make a good life for yourself.