• RoosterBoy@lemm.ee
    117·
    1 year ago

    Large number of poorly educated, easily manipulated people? You mean like the illegal immigrants the left is letting in in droves?

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
      13·
      1 year ago

      I’ve never understood this conspiracy. Illegal immigrants can’t vote. How exactly is the left supposed to benefit?

      • effward@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Yeah, the argument makes literally zero sense, but if you bring it up to them, it opens the door for them to talk about other batshit crazy conspiracies. Like needing tighter controls on who can vote. Which are thinly veiled attempts to limit the opposition from voting.

        • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 year ago

          One time someone made an argument that semi made sense.

          “It’s their children! These immigrants come in here and liberals give them jobs and welfare and put their kids in schools and give them scholarships and then the kids grow up to vote for Democrats!”

          And I’m like…that’s incredible! You’re really making the Dems sound like good guys here!

          None of it makes sense unless you start from a baseline of racism.

          • RoosterBoy@lemm.ee
            32·
            1 year ago

            The issue is those benefits like free healthcare, scholarships, and such is that they aren’t also given to actual US citizens, we treat illegals better than our own.

            • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 year ago

              I think that’s a big part of the disconnect…people in Republican run states see all these benefits given to immigrants in liberal run states and go “hey that shit is not fair!”

              But they don’t understand that in liberal states we also give those things to citizens. I’m a white, cis, male, born-American citizen. I get free college classes. I got those free government checks during covid, and welfare when I was out of work. I got a voucher for low income housing. I’m doing good now (and paying very high taxes for it) but when I was down, the State of California had my back.

              We give benefits to poor people and take extra taxes from rich people. We just don’t care if you’re an immigrant or not.

    • ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      91·
      1 year ago

      Fuck off.

      My ancestors and maybe yours too for that matter, were poorly educated, not by choice. They migrated here bc they were desperate and it offered hope. And now many generations later, my parents’ and all subsequent generations in the family have been college educated with many success stories.

      You just don’t like brown people. Fuck off.

      • RoosterBoy@lemm.ee
        14·
        1 year ago

        Our ancestors didn’t drag their children through barbed wire and didn’t demote US citizens to 2nd class by receiving free healthcare and benefits over them. They also didn’t steal to such a degree that the police gave up on enforcing the law.