• Farid@startrek.website
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    19 hours ago

    What kind of logic is that? The tool exists and it takes 30 seconds to achieve a comparable result to what would’ve taken 10-30 minutes doing manually depending on user’s skills. Is it only ok to use image generation for hard-to-do stuff?

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        4 hours ago

        Yes, really. And I actually think I was quite conservative with time requirements.

        And why can’t you only judge the idea/joke aspect of the work? Sure, the execution didn’t require much effort, but the point was to convey* the idea/joke.

        Are holodeck programs in StarTrek automatically worthless because to create them people merely instruct the Computer what and where to put?

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            3 hours ago

            This IS human expression. Human had a concept and realized it using a tool. Human expression comes in many shapes and forms. How is this any less effort than adding caption to a template image, which is 80% of regular memes? IMO, you’re just biased and don’t treat it fairly.

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                not to reply to two of your comments, just hanging around town rn ig lmao.

                but:

                better stop browsing the internet period, then. the last time you watched youtube or streamed anything it consumed far more system resources and it produced far more pollution than the vast majority of machine learning is even remotely capable of. why pick on the data centers used for AI when they’re handily outnumbered by infrastructure for other equally, if not more vain corpo products?

                i genuinely mean this question in good faith, but, are you and others who harp on the environment in this discourse just ignorant of how the entire modern technology sector is actually built and runs? if your answer is anything but yes, then, why is your position objectively inconsistent and arbitrary? are you just too in the shit to realize you actually hate corporations and companies, not artificial intelligence technologies?

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                  the last time you watched youtube or streamed anything it consumed far more system resources and it produced far more pollution than the vast majority of machine learning is even remotely capable of. why pick on the data centers used for AI when they’re handily outnumbered by infrastructure for other equally, if not more vain corpo products?

                  I’d like to see a source on that, first of all. Second, “banning video content” isn’t really a viable or realistic option, and would also put a lot of people out of work, and the existence of video content provides value in education, artistic expression, and entertainment. AI slop does not, it’s wholly unnecessary, ugly, limits expression, puts artists out of work, etc.

            • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              4 hours ago

              There’s no point in trying to debate or reason with anti-AI trolls, most of them are neolibs or just regular libs anyway. If they weren’t they wouldn’t be barfing out the same tired ass talking points and using ad-hominem to attack logical rebuttals to their arguments.