Just wait until people realise the steepness of the co2 emissions reduction curve has become so extreme that it is impossible to avoid catastrophic climate change without a global collapse of capitalism that in turn can only lead to kinetic world war. Which, again in turn, is the most carbon intensive activity known to human-kind, making this sort of environmental degradation a picture of the good old days.
It is a pity that most people didn’t pay attention when IPCC’s working group three (the group responsible for coming up with a plan to mitigate climate change), was filled with economists beholden to a [neo-]liberal economic and political ideology that 1. set the stage for the current and future governments of right wing extremists. And 2. ‘discounted the future at 5%’, meaning rather than plan to mitigate climate change they said: “we will invest money now in exploiting fossil fuels, which will return a profit at 5% per year. Then we will take these compounded 5%'s and invest that in co2 removal technology”. (Unfortunately they missed off the: [… co2 removal technology that does not exist outside of a lab and has only been shown to be impossible at scale].)
I don’t have the information that says we are now at the point of no return (I bet people like Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping do), but publicly available information shows we have a limited number of years, and are racing in the wrong direction. Apologies maybe I am not having the best morning!
You are devastatingly correct on all points. We are AT BEST a few years from the cliff. If we do avoid the cliff, it will be so extremely painful for every single person on the planet that our societies will crumble. There will be a massive population crash as industrialized agriculture is made largely impossible. The chaos in this situation is impossible to overstate.
Mind you, if we don’t avoid the cliff, we still go through that, but worse.
Then the crops grow, and they’re all full of microscopic glass fibre.
Then the foodstuffs are shipped to the world.
Then the foods are eaten and the GF joins the microplastics in our bloodstream.
Man, that’s gotta be hell on any wildlife left living in the areas in which it’s used. (I mean, I get the necessity, but dang)
Tillers too when this war ends (with Russia’s defeat) and it’s time to plant crops.
Just wait until people realise the steepness of the co2 emissions reduction curve has become so extreme that it is impossible to avoid catastrophic climate change without a global collapse of capitalism that in turn can only lead to kinetic world war. Which, again in turn, is the most carbon intensive activity known to human-kind, making this sort of environmental degradation a picture of the good old days.
It is a pity that most people didn’t pay attention when IPCC’s working group three (the group responsible for coming up with a plan to mitigate climate change), was filled with economists beholden to a [neo-]liberal economic and political ideology that 1. set the stage for the current and future governments of right wing extremists. And 2. ‘discounted the future at 5%’, meaning rather than plan to mitigate climate change they said: “we will invest money now in exploiting fossil fuels, which will return a profit at 5% per year. Then we will take these compounded 5%'s and invest that in co2 removal technology”. (Unfortunately they missed off the: [… co2 removal technology that does not exist outside of a lab and has only been shown to be impossible at scale].)
I don’t have the information that says we are now at the point of no return (I bet people like Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping do), but publicly available information shows we have a limited number of years, and are racing in the wrong direction. Apologies maybe I am not having the best morning!
Well I mean the psychopathic and narcissistic rich bastards in charge aren’t gonna feel the effects so why should they care?
You are devastatingly correct on all points. We are AT BEST a few years from the cliff. If we do avoid the cliff, it will be so extremely painful for every single person on the planet that our societies will crumble. There will be a massive population crash as industrialized agriculture is made largely impossible. The chaos in this situation is impossible to overstate.
Mind you, if we don’t avoid the cliff, we still go through that, but worse.
the whole war is really bad for the environment. not just locally. tanks don’t run on solar. burning fuel depots, etc…
we need to stop putin and his enablers.
There’s also a good chance a lot of these areas are smattered with land mines too.
The real problem is always in the comments
Then the crops grow, and they’re all full of microscopic glass fibre. Then the foodstuffs are shipped to the world. Then the foods are eaten and the GF joins the microplastics in our bloodstream.