• desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 days ago

      Not everyone buys a separate device for their children or knows how to/can set up a user account.

      This comment is a parenting related issue, the technicality illiterate might forget to take the proper precautions when letting their child use their phone and blame the game instead of taking responsibility for their actions.

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        3 days ago

        No, you’re making it one to sidestep an issue.

        If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that “no one has any common sense anymore,” or whatever you’re doing, isn’t a solution.

        I do blame the game a little because it’s a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.

        Let me ask you this question, hm? You don’t want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine. Why not: $80 up front, all banners are periodic DLCs, some of them free, there is more than enough korok seeds in game to get all of them, and they never expire—infinite time to twiddle your thumbs before completing them. Would this not solve your ID problem?

        That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?

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          If this bad parenting happens often enough to be a real problem, then whining into the wind that “no one has any common sense anymore,” or whatever you’re doing, isn’t a solution.

          of course thats not a solution. but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws that make the parents responsible for their negligence. sometimes it’s not even intentional negligence, but that they don’t even know what should they do, and how can that be done

          I do blame the game a little because it’s a game that really, really, really wants you to spend money on diamond gem funbucks.

          that’s fair, I do too. I also blame all the commercial social networks, if I can call them that way

          You don’t want to show your ID even though we all do that for alcohol—fine.

          just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved. normally you just show it and that’s it.

          That is, unless you would like to spearhead this global movement to teach underprivileged parents how to configure their phones?

          if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable for the consequences their negligence causes.

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            2 days ago

            but what can you do? lawmakers wont make laws …

            You elect lawmakers.

            just let me remind you that that happens offline, and it is provable if copies are not preserved.

            Fascinating.

            if someone cannot properly configure their phones, then they need to be made liable

            So, this is exactly the problem I have with you and the other person. It’s this contempt you have for your fellow people. It’s extremely selfish. This isn’t how you talk to your neighbors. You’re not getting invited to any cookouts or block parties with this attitude.

            If you and I can agree that children shouldn’t be in casinos, then they shouldn’t be allowed into the casino. I am open to your suggestions.

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              24 hours ago

              You elect lawmakers.

              well I personally certainly don’t. I have too little power to do that, and I’m afraid too much care about non-existent made up problems, and too few about things like this.

              Fascinating.

              your response actually is! does not sound too genuine.

              If you and I can agree that children shouldn’t be in casinos, then they shouldn’t be allowed into the casino. I am open to your suggestions.

              children shouldn’t get uncontrolled access to smartphones. access needs to be controlled by the parent. For medicine and cleaning things most already know to place those items out of children’s reach. from this aspect, we would need to tackle the problem that the children obtains the parent’s phone. some small items, maybe cleaning appliances too, are made to have a bad bitter taste so that children don’t want to put them in their mouth. according to that pattern, we would need to mandate that online services are ugly and irritating to use. but is that the solution we actually want? I don’t think so. or could we just ban services that are tuned to make people addicted, like drugs? but how do we define that, and that too is a double edged sword.

              but ultimately, we either make casinos unattractive, or make the parents be the casinos’ first line bouncers, in the digital world.
              the first one sounds good, but the internet and even social media is not only for taking advantage of people, contrary to casinos.
              the second one requires cooperation. how would you incentivise cooperation? tie benefits to it,or part of the benefits, through child protection services or something?

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                or make the parents be the casinos’ first line bouncers

                Or, you know, we could just have bouncers on site. Such as a system which asks you to prove you’re older than 13 before you’re allowed to access it.

                I mean, this sure is a lot of pontificating and wondering about how the legal system could ever handle such an absurdly vague and difficult task when it already seems to be doing that.

                I’m going to invoke a comparison here that you’re not going to like very much. I promise, you shouldn’t take it personally.

                I have had 1,000 arguments with fascists who looove tilting this way and that about how philosophically undefinable their behavior is. Zeno’s paradox, the ship of theseus, what really is a “casino” anyway? I’ll tell you this: I’m fine with 80% success. “Oh, but what if someone who is 19 but doesn’t have an ID is rejected by the system? They won’t be allowed to play. :(” Uh, that sucks for them. Oh well. I guess they’ll have to go back to Atelier Ryza.

                I have too little power to do that,

                Damn, that sucks for you.