The biggest issue with this is that people that think like this tend to throw accusations like “neo-Nazi” out like lollies, at everyone that they disagree with about on certain things that are in no way “nazi-esque”.
These people literally call themselves neo-nazis.
No-one here is pretending that disagreeing with a position makes someone a Nazi. No-one here is throwing that label around. We’re talking about a specific political organisation who demand new members read Mein Kampf and Siege, imitate the language and symbolism of the historical NSDAP, and seek similar political policies. This action was an act of political propaganda for their White Nationalist organisation, in line with their ideological beliefs, in an attempt to recruit people closer to the mainstream. They tried the same during anti-vax, the same with trans people issues. This is their way of operating - trying to pretend they’re on your side.
Criticizing the welcome to country does not make someone a neo-nazi. Obviously not! In fact, even progressives are able to criticise it, I know some who do. The problem is that you went out of your way to trivialise the literal, loud-and-proud neo-nazis engaging in nazi propaganda, as an instinctive reaction to my comment, suggesting that I’m the problem here for calling an apple an apple. You don’t have to stick up for those neo-nazis in order to critisise the welcome to country. This isn’t a two-sided sport, not everything is some “left-right” culture war crap.
When you suggest that there aren’t real neo-nazis involved here, or that it was only one, and imply that it’s ridiculous for us to point them out, you are enabling nazism, and Australia has no reason to tolerate that antisocial behaviour. So, please, don’t do that again.
Criticizing the welcome to country does not make someone a neo-Nazi. Obviously not!
Seems at least one admin of this instance disagrees lol. Just had moderator status taken off me for completely unrelated subs and threatened with a ban - which is coming whenever he sees my reply - because apparently thinking that doing a “welcome to country” at an ANZAC ceremony is disrespectful to the ANZACS is a verified and official Neo-Nazi belief, even if it’s shared by millions of non-neo-Nazis, and as such is worthy of stripping moderator status and threatening a ban lol.
Disgraceful. I bet he is absolutely on board with Albo now wanting to charge anyone who boos at a welcome to country with a hate crime and send them to jail for 5 years.
I never, not once, not even remotely suggested that there was no “real neo-nazi there”. I’m not an idiot, I know there are racist fucking dipshits here. I never said there wasn’t. I said that you can’t label everyone that booed or that thought the WtC was disrespectful as a neo-Nazi, which should not be a controversial comment.
It is apparently though. Any view that a neo-Nazi has is off limits, even if they share the same view as everyone else. Thinking Albanese has been a terrible PM is probably a neo-Nazi view that’s worthy of having mod status removed and threatened to be banned, because neo-Nazis would definitely think he is a shitty PM. Better watch out you don’t criticise Albo or you’re a neo-Nazi!
Lemmy really is speed running to 2020s reddit lol. Mod the ever loving fuck out of anyone that doesn’t toe the echo chamber line, label everything you don’t agree with as “misinformation”, and just ban everyone anonymously so it doesn’t show in the mod log who did it and use the intentionally vague “trolling, bad faith, misinformation” BS reason lol.
Thought this instances was at least a bit less ideologically captured and as an Aussie one I thought it wouldn’t be censor central, but seems like certain mods have just woken from their slumber of never commenting in years and are now turning the censorship machine on. Seriously, check out their post/comment history.
These people literally call themselves neo-nazis.
No-one here is pretending that disagreeing with a position makes someone a Nazi. No-one here is throwing that label around. We’re talking about a specific political organisation who demand new members read Mein Kampf and Siege, imitate the language and symbolism of the historical NSDAP, and seek similar political policies. This action was an act of political propaganda for their White Nationalist organisation, in line with their ideological beliefs, in an attempt to recruit people closer to the mainstream. They tried the same during anti-vax, the same with trans people issues. This is their way of operating - trying to pretend they’re on your side.
Criticizing the welcome to country does not make someone a neo-nazi. Obviously not! In fact, even progressives are able to criticise it, I know some who do. The problem is that you went out of your way to trivialise the literal, loud-and-proud neo-nazis engaging in nazi propaganda, as an instinctive reaction to my comment, suggesting that I’m the problem here for calling an apple an apple. You don’t have to stick up for those neo-nazis in order to critisise the welcome to country. This isn’t a two-sided sport, not everything is some “left-right” culture war crap.
When you suggest that there aren’t real neo-nazis involved here, or that it was only one, and imply that it’s ridiculous for us to point them out, you are enabling nazism, and Australia has no reason to tolerate that antisocial behaviour. So, please, don’t do that again.
Seems at least one admin of this instance disagrees lol. Just had moderator status taken off me for completely unrelated subs and threatened with a ban - which is coming whenever he sees my reply - because apparently thinking that doing a “welcome to country” at an ANZAC ceremony is disrespectful to the ANZACS is a verified and official Neo-Nazi belief, even if it’s shared by millions of non-neo-Nazis, and as such is worthy of stripping moderator status and threatening a ban lol.
https://aussie.zone/comment/16252130
Disgraceful. I bet he is absolutely on board with Albo now wanting to charge anyone who boos at a welcome to country with a hate crime and send them to jail for 5 years.
I never, not once, not even remotely suggested that there was no “real neo-nazi there”. I’m not an idiot, I know there are racist fucking dipshits here. I never said there wasn’t. I said that you can’t label everyone that booed or that thought the WtC was disrespectful as a neo-Nazi, which should not be a controversial comment.
It is apparently though. Any view that a neo-Nazi has is off limits, even if they share the same view as everyone else. Thinking Albanese has been a terrible PM is probably a neo-Nazi view that’s worthy of having mod status removed and threatened to be banned, because neo-Nazis would definitely think he is a shitty PM. Better watch out you don’t criticise Albo or you’re a neo-Nazi!
Lemmy really is speed running to 2020s reddit lol. Mod the ever loving fuck out of anyone that doesn’t toe the echo chamber line, label everything you don’t agree with as “misinformation”, and just ban everyone anonymously so it doesn’t show in the mod log who did it and use the intentionally vague “trolling, bad faith, misinformation” BS reason lol.
Thought this instances was at least a bit less ideologically captured and as an Aussie one I thought it wouldn’t be censor central, but seems like certain mods have just woken from their slumber of never commenting in years and are now turning the censorship machine on. Seriously, check out their post/comment history.