DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.
Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.
Unrelated……
The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.
What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.
This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.
And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…
38% of registered voters didn’t bother to vote. I think many of them couldn’t stomach either candidate in the fake two-party system and didn’t think a third party or independent could win so they didn’t bother. If that 38% had gotten behind a candidate like Jill Stein or a write in campaign for Bernie Sanders, they could have beaten Trump and Harris.
Jill Stein was a spoiler candidate to help Trump
There can be only two candidates to choose from, and both will be genocide supporters, and you will be happy you have a vote.
You do realize the Green Party has been around much longer than Trump has been involved in politics, right? Jill Stein has been running on the ticket since at least 2012. The Green party opposes everything Trump and MAGA stand for.
That’s what they’re supposed to do, doesn’t mean it’s what they do in practice.
https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn
no she wasn’t
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-jill-stein-favorite-politicians-1980202
https://fairvote.org/jill-stein-and-spoiler-season/
this doesn’t prove your claim.
Wake up.
prove the claim.
No, I’m not interested in doing your homework for you. Prove I’m wrong.
Usually people making claims need citations. Republicans don’t give citations to their claims. Maybe we can be better than them?
Its a common tactic by the MAGA Nazis to make their opposition endlessly chase their tails proving what is already thoroughly established. NO matter how much proof is offered, they will completely deny it with propaganda and bullshit, and demand more proof. I won’t play their game. They are blissful in their ignorance, and I stopped caring about educating them long ago.
You’re the one that made the claim. if you can’t support it I have every reason to doubt it.
Third party candidates are always spoilers, Ralph Nader and Ross Perot being major ones.
Stein is such a good spoiler, that Republicans worked to get her on ballots, knowing she’d draw off more Dems than Reps.
This is basic political knowledge, and you arguing against it marks you as a troll or an idiot. Which are you?
There was a reason she didn’t run in 2020 and that’s because her interference wasn’t needed that year.
that’s the year I voted for Howie Hawkins. you’re just spreading a baseless conspiracy theory
It’s baseless that she didn’t run in 2020?
your claim about why she wasn’t the candidate is baseless
She ran in 2016 and 2024 though right?
Was she too busy to run in 2020?
Preach, friend! 100 percent true!
And if significantly less than that 38% had voted for Harris when Trump told them he would destroy America, they could have beaten Trump.
Maybe folks don’t want to vote for their own oppressors, whether the oppressor in chief is Trump or Harris? But Harris would have been less oppressive you say? Tell that to the working poor who have ballooned in numbers under both Democrats and Republicans. And tell it to the Palestinians, most of whom were killed with Biden’s bombs.
Riiiight. Yeah. Let’s all take a look around and see how we are SO much better off as a result of your inaction.
My inaction? I’m not American. And neither do I accept the pitiful attempt of Democrats to deflect blame onto everyone but themselves for their embarrassing loss to a literal moron. You lot fucked around with plutocracy and reached the endgame early. Sucks to be you I guess.
As I’ve said before, I have had comments removed from here for bringing up something unrelated to the PTB. Even though it was related as it involved the same mod, it was removed anyway.
Now you’re here to debate a topic unrelated to the mod or the topic, even after I’ve said that I won’t discuss it with you here because I’m following the rules that were cited as reason for the removal of my comments in another post.
It takes two to tango, Rhoeri. But you are right I suppose, so I’ll leave it here.
Yeah, well… those I responded to didn’t remove my comments. You did. So, in this case, it just took one.
But yea, it’s best to leave it here.
Ask yourself why Trump wasn’t put in prison for Jan 6th as soon as Biden took office. There are not two separate parties. There is a single party pretending to be two parties. They all work for the same corporations and they all take bribes from AIPAC. That’s why 38% didn’t bother to vote.
Probably because there were only a few guns found, and he sent mixed messages including telling people to be peaceful and later to go home. I’ve even seen threads here where people admit it wasn’t a real insurrection. It was less violent than things that have happened in places like Seattle - and I get that different rules apply at the Capitol - but bottom line it wasn’t a slam dunk as disqualifying him in the public’s opinion.
Revisionism
Ask for the guards’ takes on what happened instead
I have heard the guards takes and I think I have a grasp on the nature of the event. I’ve also watched tons of videos including unprompted violence and also the guards letting people in, giving no resistance at all. It was a fucked up day, but was anything I said untrue?
Because they were outnumbered, they had to distract the crowd to not let them reach the politicians. There were a goddamn guillotine outside, and several participants are guilty of violent crimes and had weapons stashed in vehicles nearby.
what are you gonna do about it?
grow up, either grab a rifle and start shooting at political candidates or vote for the lesser evil, you can’t sit in the corner and cry like a 5 year old waiting for the teacher to come and defend you.
This is the real world, nobody is gonna help you but yourself.
Yes, it is unfair, it is fucked and it is bad, but really, what are you gonna do about it?
There is no lesser evil. You either support human rights or you support tyranny, oppression and genocide. Democrats and Republicans don’t support human rights, they support corporate power which leads to tyranny, oppression and genocide. You can’t lie to me and say you care about women’s rights and reproductive freedom, for example, while providing funding and political support to exterminate women in Palestine. See how that doesn’t add up.
what are you gonna do about it?
there are lots of other options
Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …
I’m no anti electoralist, but people are still protesting the genocide.
There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse
you’re making that up.
I saw them with my own eyes.
can you show me?
Just run a search for “genocide Joe” and look for the people denying that Trump being buddies with Netanyahu would make things worse, claiming Trump wants peace (all he wants is power and PR)
if it was so easy, you would do it and support your own claims. this is not evidence, it’s hand waving.
No, that’s not what they said, and I still see most of those names posting around Lemmy all the time
Usually saying “toldja”, fun y enough
Either we’re not talking about the same crowd, or you need to work on your reading comprehension
I haven’t gone anywhere. Frankly you’re a piece of shit for implying everybody who cared about gaza was a foreign troll. The fact you’re entirely lacking empathy for foreigners and only care about your own sheltered ass doesn’t mean we’re all like that. Scumbag
What’s happening in palestine is blatantly abhorrent, but voting dem would have ended in a much more favourable outcome (not a good outcome, but better).
If you mean a more favorable outcome in Palestine, I… don’t think so. I mean I voted for Harris, and a mostly democratic ballot from top to bottom, but I really don’t think she would have changed the behavior of Israel in Palestine or even significantly change U.S.A. actions that support that behavior.
But, she wouldn’t have trashed our relationship with every trading partner, ruined the NIH and FDA, published military plans in the newspaper. She might have been better on trans rights, but maybe not. So, yeah a more favorable outcome overall, at least IMO.
While I wasn’t referring to Palestine specifically, I feel it would have been tangentially more preferable, but still awful for Palestine.
I think she would have been on par with biden on trans rights.
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that user is always occupying the ever-common Lemmy superposition of dunking relentlessly on people for being pro Palestine, but then if pressed will desperately act like they’re also pro Palestine and claim that it’s your responsibility to prove why they’re not.
This one you’re replying to in particular is also just a chauvinist who loves calling Russians orcs
I don’t think those people are dunking on people for being pro-palestine, they’re dunking on them not voting because of Palestine.
Believe it or not, not everyone is a shit stain American who got to vote for one of your two shitty mainstream candidates, both of which support Israel to the hilt.
My parties? I’m Irish and all three of our major parties support palestine.
Good for you. But I don’t see the problem with dunking on anyone who supports genocide, and that includes the Dems, sadly. Why would any leftist USasian bother voting if their choices are confined to either supplying weapons to genocidal regimes, or supplying bombs to genocidal regimes?
Because voting dem results in less harm overall. Its easier to fix a system when the system isn’t disappering people.
A charitable read is that it’s only dunking on people for the electoral choices, but the racist comment history and shitty previous interactions I’ve had with this particular user is why I don’t have any charity today.
This “superposition” tactic has a name: Motte-and-bailey argument
Is that similar to being pro-Palestine while they’re being invaded yet pro-Russian while they’re invading?
No, and
I was just wondering if Palestine was the motte and Russia would be the bailey but I guess I got it wrong and I’ll have to read that article again.
Average ‘anti-racist’ lib.
Edit: a word