With games now jumping from one generation of consoles to the next, when is the best time to play something? Is there ever a best time?

  • nuko147@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    On Switch 2 you get only HDR and 4K,no new textures or better graphics. You pay $10 to utilize the console you bought over a game you have.

    On Switch 3 you will need to buy it again, only for $ 120.

    The flood of remakes and remasters shows how the innovation in large gaming corporations has run dry.

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      9 days ago

      That’s a little disingenuous. There are other gameplay features added for the Switch 2 version.

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        9 days ago

        You mean the app guide and building sharing through QR? That’s on your phone. I speak for BOTW and TOTK.

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          9 days ago

          What does it being on your phone matter? As I understand it, you cannot do it on the switch 1 version of the game. It is a new feature added to the switch 2 version of the game.

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            8 days ago

            1st, they could made it to Switch too, there is no need for extra console.

            2nd, both games had companion apps free from community, so its a minor improvment to that

            3rd, jesus christ

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              8 days ago

              This is integrated to the point the app is aware where in the world you are. It’s okay to charge for new things, one reason being that people eat and food costs money.

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                8 days ago

                If you want to pay, go donate to the guys that made the companion apps, not multibillion companies offering trinkets…

                Oh, why i even bother, Nintendo fanboys…

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                  8 days ago

                  Nintendo employs people who eat. Go explain why you want to freeload to someone who believes it ;)

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                    8 days ago

                    Freeload? I had payed 70€ for TOTK, if i ever buy Switch 2 that’s another 450€, and you call that freeloading? So 520€ is freeloading and not the 10€ they ask to run the game. If this was not an anti consumer tactic, you could play the fucking game no matter what in Switch 2, and ask 10€ only for these “upgrades”.

                    I would like to know if even you would pay for this, fanboy.

                    PS Thanks Playstation fanboys who made this a today norm.

                  • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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                    8 days ago

                    Other big companies offer bigger free upgrades for years without demanding more money from who already bought game (Minecraft says hi), indie developers have less sources of revenue and lots of them still offer updates for longer than even a console life cycle - and neither are tying the updates to buying a brand new console.

    • CrayonRosary@lemmy.world
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      8 days ago

      You pay $10 to utilize the console you bought over a game you have.

      I’ve read this sentence like 10 times, and I just don’t get it. What are you saying here?

      • nuko147@lemm.ee
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        8 days ago

        Some games, not all, like TOTK, will need upgrade packs costing 10€, so you can play the game in Switch 2. They offer some enhancements to justify the paywall.

        For example.

        The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition

        Release date: June 5, 2025

        Upgrade details

        • Support for the ZELDA NOTES game-specific service via Nintendo Switch App*

        • Improved frame rates and resolution

        • Faster load times

        • HDR support

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            7 days ago

            A guy here in the post believes thst you can.

            But when the upgrade pack describes that you unlock higher resolution, fps, HDR and faster loading screens, i can not see how.

            Furthermore the upgrade pack for the Pokémon AZ says:

            Pokémon™ Legends: Z-A – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition

            Release date: Late 2025

            Upgrade details

            • Improved performance with higher frame rate and resolution

            So how you are suppose to play it in Switch 2 without an upgrade pack? What you gain?

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              The upgrade pack will act like DLC that modifies the game to load off of internal storage on the console. That’ll be faster than loading it off of a switch cartridge. The textures will be enhanced as well, and downloaded from Nintendo servers onto your console.

              So how you are suppose to play it in Switch 2 without an upgrade pack?

              You just put it in and it runs. Exactly like putting a Game Cube game in a Wii. Or a PS1 game in a PS2. How is this not obvious?

              What you gain?

              Nothing, except now you can sell your Switch 1 and still play your original Switch games, and not have to have two consoles.

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                7 days ago

                There are no new textures. Only better resolution with upgrade pack. So you gonna play 4k TOTK with the same textures.

                What am i saying is this. If the upgrade pack offers 4k and better fps, what would you get without it? Will the game run on 1080p with crapy fps on Switch 2?

                The most believe that it won’t simply run without installing the uograde pack. Some games get free upgrade packs and some paid.

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                  7 days ago

                  The console is backward compatible. It will run all Switch 1 games without buying any upgrade packs.

                  Will the game run on 1080p with crapy fps on Switch 2

                  Very likely, yes. The system basically emulates a Switch 1, and emulators must add limits to virtual chips because otherwise there would be bugs.

                  For instance, when I first started emulating BotW, there was a 60 FPS patch. It made the game unplayable for me. The menu selections moved too fast. If I pressed Up or Down a little too long, it would jump the selection to the top or bottom. I ended up choosing the wrong thing in so many conversations that I got frustrated and turned it off. Eventually the devs released another patch that makes menus work better at 60fps.

                  Stuff like that is exactly what this upgrade patch will do. It fixes the game to run as if it were a native Switch 2 game, because it’s not!

                  There are no new textures. Only better resolution with upgrade pack. So you gonna play 4k TOTK with the same textures.

                  OK, I guess I misunderstood. I still think it’ll look fine. The textures are cartoony anyways, and in 4k, the objects will be so sharp. Text will probably be updated if it doesn’t already use a vector font, but I’m just guessing on that.

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                    7 days ago

                    Ok, i understand. So they put the fixing patches behind a paywall for certain games, while other games getting them for free and others maybe not getting one at all. But all will play as you were in Switch 1.