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    27 days ago

    There is a distinct type of person, very good at one thing, that is unable to understand that doesn’t translate to the rest of their life. Easiest to describe them as a high int, low wis character.

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        27 days ago

        Still incredible that people bought into “half the features twice the price” Apple products so hard that it corrupted the entire industry

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          I will give him credit he turned computers and phones into fashion accessories. He is closer to Coco Chanel than any tech visionary. If you think about it his methods were closer to QAnon or flat earth people. You can sell some people anything if you can convince them they are better than other people if they follow you. I am still salty about him overshadowed Dennis Richie’s passing who was a real tech visionary.

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            Steve Jobs, Edison, Elon are all similar to me as they used smart people and took most of the credit. Westinghouse at least for the time treated his employees above average.

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          26 days ago

          As I’ve gotten older, I’ve come to realize that convenience and simplicity are sometimes a feature. Just Works™ technology has a lot of value (assuming the thing does in fact just work).

          I don’t have any Apple products, but there are plenty of other categories in my life where I’ve paid more for a worse product just because I didn’t have to think at all about the one I got.

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            Just Works™ technology has a lot of value (assuming the thing does in fact just work).

            And that assumption is unfounded in Apple’s case. My parents have constant issues with their iPhones that you would never get on Android. But my mom is convinced that it’s easier to use than Android despite never having tried Android

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              I’d be interested to hear what those problems are. Not saying you’re wrong by any means, but the legacy of the iPhone has been, from the very beginning, a simple, non customizable, piss easy to use, smart phone for dumb people that basically can’t be broken (at least on a software level) because it won’t let you play with any of the fiddly bits. It does exactly what it does and if you don’t like that, shoulda bought an Android instead, because this iPhone isn’t about to let you change it.

              That’s not to say that they can’t have bugs or issues, because they certainly can, but the ability of the phone owner to brick themselves is like a fraction of a fraction of a percent of what you’d see with Androids in my experience. Android will let you do what you want up to and including breaking your boot loader if you mess around with developer settings, Apple doesn’t even give you dev settings last I knew.

              I’m an Android fan myself but I do see that Apple has a use case, and that use case is giving non technically minded people a device that “just works” mostly without having to fiddle with it.

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                I’ve switched to iOS exclusively about 10 years ago cause I got tired of android being full of it. I just wanted a phone that works without me tweaking every little thing. I don’t regret the choice one bit, other than giving money to the other tech giant.

                This is not me hating android either; I guess I was unlucky with the phones I had.

                That said, being a dev myself, my phone shouldn’t be a side project I maintain, but something I can use with ease. Apple products fit that description for me and just as that won’t be a universal sentiment (which it never should be) that’s nothing to be scoffed at.

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      Doctors failed to communicate the situation in a way he would grasp that his choices were death or chemo. Maybe a, "that’s your choice? OK, before you go, how world you like us to handle your corpse? So you want a full autopsy to confirm the cancer diagnosis, or would you prefer we didn’t? Is there a particular burial home you have plans with? "

      But in all likelihood there’s nothing anyone could have said to him to make him see reason.

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        But in all likelihood there’s nothing anyone could have said to him to make him see reason.

        “The CEO after you will mess up the design of apple products”

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        People say he was good at marketing but really he was only okay at marketing. He got fined because everyone hated him. Then they completely mismanaged the company and had no choice but to bring him back, which of course just reinforced his ego.

        The truth was they could have got any moderately competent CEO and they would have brought Apple back from the brink, just as much as Steve Jobs did. Look at Tim Cook, he’s not doing an obviously worse job than Jobs did, but because he doesn’t have the formers aura, people rightfully call him out every time he does something stupid.

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    The behind the bastards episode will teach you a lot about this piece of shit. Wozniak is the genius, this is just another predatory businessman. Good riddance.

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      Yknow, while I 90% agree with you there seems to be some element between the technical genius (Wozniak) and the idiot businessman that is Tim Apple.

      Jobs may have been a piece of shit but there’s something to be said for the uncompromising non-technical focus on UX that allowed Jobs to make the iPhone a success.

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      Sure Wozniak invented the Apple I and II. But if he never met Jobs his inventions would have stayed a hobby and Apple would have never existed. Woz also didn’t push for an OS with a GUI (which was revolutionary back then) that was Jobs’ idea. Not to mention that Woz had nothing to do with Apple’s comeback. He has been an honorary employee since Jobs was fired. Woz is a genius but people give him way too much credit just like they do with Jobs.

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    I mean, fucking up is a common thing people do and is an integral part of the human condition. What should be emphasized about Jobs case is that he fucked up his own liver, learned the cause and treatments, used his wealth to cut in the waiting line to get a liver transplant, and then fucked his second liver just the same way. This is the definition of terminally stupid, and no UX focus will ever change that.

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      I remember reading a story a while back about the documentary they were making on him. He had his special diet of juices and supplements and whatnot, which he claimed helped him while his liver was failing. The actor who portrayed him started following the same diet to better get in character. Only then he collapsed on set with liver problems. They did a full medical work up and basically told him whatever you’re doing stop doing it because it’s killing you. He went back to his normal diet and he was fine. Raising the serious question, did Steve Jobs outsmart himself to death? If he had given up all the diets and supplements and whatnot might he have lived?

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    Also bought his way up the organ donor list even after he took so long ignoring it, passing over a bunch of people who should have had claim to it and some who died instead, all just so he could die anyway because he took too long to get treatment. Failed so hard multiple people died.

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      26 days ago

      Source on this? I read that Tim Apple offered a donation and Steve refused. I have not read that he had the surgery.

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        He did get a transplant, in TN. Not in CA where he lived. He used his wealth to add himself to a areas with more donors and fewer on the wait list because he could hop on a jet unlike normal plebians.

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          25 days ago

          That doesn’t describe jumping a line, it just describes waiting in more lines. Is that all there was to it?

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            I would argue it does, because he used his wealth to get a liver before he should have. Just because he has the means to be on the donor list in Bumblefuck, Egypt doesn’t mean he’s not jumping the line and taking an organ from someone who should have gotten it.

            However you slice it, he used his wealth to steal a liver from a much more deserving recipient. He never should have been given the liver given how he destroyed his own, and it’s a shame he was able to buy a new one to destroy the same fucking way.

            We need to stop defending this sort of behavior.

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    I was reading an interesting article the other day about how after World War II people were obviously opposed to populism, and by the '80s and certainly the '90s people that were born after the war had lost the awareness of the danger that hero worship creates.

    At the same time, many organizations including government organizations had failed to update themselves over the years, so people romanticized the idea of someone walking in and magically making the correct snap judgments that would remedy the situation. This was so pervasive in the business world I think in part because it allowed corporate executives to justify f****** over ordinary employees. If the company makes or breaks because of one person at the top, who cares if you’re paying people minimum wage and they can’t even afford to pay for dental care or a car.

    What amazed me is how long that vision of Steve Jobs stuck around. Even in recent years people have been praising him, but if you think of the value in his company, it’s mostly a load of s***. Those phones and computers are incredibly overpriced, and they have so many bad aspects, especially lock-in, which most people intuitively understand these days. And still we have Apple addicts.

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        Quora became good in its first years until the other co-founder was fired around 2012 (Coincidence? Who were the visionaries?). Quora stagnated until 2018 when the remaining (visionless) co-founder started enshittifying it.

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    26 days ago

    Jobs paved the way for Musk. I hate that he’s so often cited as a genius to look up to in the tech world

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      Not musk, the entire silicon valley fake it and hope you make it mindset. Jobs opened the door for Holmes. Jobs opened the door for Uber to completely make up a business plan. Jobs opened the door to Elon buying “founder” status. His genius contribution is in making the tech industry the batch of lying scum it is today.