• spacecadet@lemm.ee
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      If it weren’t for Hillary and the DNC being corrupt, Bernie would have destroyed trump in 2016. I know so many people where I was living in middle America that flipped from Bernie to Trump.

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        I wasn’t in middle America, but experienced the same thing. I still don’t understand it. Is it just populism? If so, not good. I definitely shed friends in 2016.

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          It’s because Trump advocates for change. Now it’s not good change but he’s definitely not a fan of the status quo, which gets you votes when the other guy is a Democrat centrist beholden to status quo-loving corporate donors.

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            I would argue that the change he advocates for is in the direction of the worst parts of status quo. The unbridled capitalistic endeavors of the rich, specifically. Very different than Bernie Sanders.

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              That’s true, but voters who are uneducated or simply don’t care about politics will see what he’s selling and think he’s at least better than the DNC’s “why would you want change? Everything is fine” nonsense.

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          Populism boosted by new media (internet) vs. lobbyism striving to maintain status quo.

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        Alright but Hillary Clinton beat Bernie Sanders in the Primary Elections, so the “corruption” you’re referring to is like 30 Million People.

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            Yeah, vote totals were like 16 Million for Hillary Clinton and 13 Million for Bernie Sanders. Maybe if more people voted in the primaries we would see Bernie at the helm.

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          Yes, because of the “super” delegates which was like 20 people who can automatically outvote the other hundreds of delegates.

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            It was real close except for the millions more people who voted for Hillary.

            Edit: sorry for the transparency making it hard to read on dark modes.

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    Mass movements can do lots of things, but we can’t even get a majority of people to vote…

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      We can get a majority of those that do vote to vote for Trump so I am not that hopeful.

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      Because people don’t feel represented in the current FPTP voting-system, which to be fair, was designed by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans.

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      As it turns out, you only need like around 5% of the population to start a revolution (if even that amount). Revolutions have been started with even fractions of a percent.

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      Voting is how we got here…

      Political proces and utterly captured

      Otherwise we would have had Bernie 2016.

      I am tired of political clowns pretending like politics is the solution, it is key part of the problem.

      Did you see how politicians are reacting here.

      Besides Bernie that is

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    Word is, when Bernie first saw the news of the murder, he said, “Fuck yes.”

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      What’s easier, motivating hundreds of thousands of people to get out and protest, or letting a few moderately motivated people take direct action?

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        Not protest. Y’all need at least a general strike to have a shot at doing something. That or found/get behind a third party and kill the DNC.

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    I wish we would see a movement like this in Canada when it comes to grocery giants like Loblaws

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    We’ve had several mass movements about it over the past 15~20 years, the only thing that has worked so far is lead poisoning.