• schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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      17 days ago

      Until a flood of TikTok users bankrupt them, anyways.

      Not entirely sure how you’d make the economics of hosting endless video files work without great big piles of money and some way to get even more big piles of money on a routine basis :/

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        Yeah, video hosting is notoriously expensive. It’s why there’s still not a real competitor to YouTube, because nobody else but Google could afford to run the platform at a net loss for the amount of time required to build a profitable user base.

        If even a tiny percentage of TikTok’s US user base decided to move to Loops, that may be enough traffic to not only completely disable Loops, but would probably impact the rest of the Fediverse at large, too.

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              Yet none of them really paywall you for using an adblocker.

              Actually come to think of it, porn sites are the only place I allow ads (obv blocking the pop ups and other dark pattern fuckery)… probablys because I learned to ignore them entirely as a teen before ad blockers existed.

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          Interaction with the fediverse is very limited atm

          Edit: and by that I mean non-existent. It’s still very early in development.

        • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Short videos do not need to be long lived (they could be deleted after 3 days) And some peer to peer could work really good for “viral” videos.

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          They can. And if at any point it becomes untenable, you can just archive whatever you host, shut down your instance, and put the videos up for download somewhere.

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            If a company is going bankrupt as a result of hosting a video service, they’re not going to be able to afford to archive and make it available for download either.

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              16 days ago

              Archive storage is relatively cheap. It’s the bandwidth and compute required to serve video that is expensive

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            17 days ago

            I think this could lead to bigger activity pub instances collecting revenue for allowing company owned instances to federate. aka ad revenue.

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              17 days ago

              Could you explain that idea in more detail? I’m not really sure I understand how that would work in practice.

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                17 days ago

                Private instance for company/creator: Hey, can we federate with your instance?

                Large public instance: pay me.

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                  Gotcha.

                  The idea of a large public instance rubs me the wrong way, since it leads to behavior like that.

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        17 days ago

        Not entirely sure how you’d make the economics of hosting endless video files work without great big piles of money

        You’re absolutely right, which is why BitTorrent never managed to take off. Totally unviable, doesn’t work at all, and definitely isn’t the technology underpinning federated video services like PeerTube.

        Edit: WTF? Why are you people denying the reality in front of your face? BitTorrent works and distributing video peer-to-peer is a solved problem. I do not understand this defeatist religious insistence that Video Must Cost Money.

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          At one point BitTorrent/P2P was responsible for something like 30-40% of all global internet traffic.

          The thing is the protocol never really developed beyond some useful, but minor evolutionary updates.

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            You say “never really developed beyond” as if that isn’t a synonym for “finished and working fine.”