I thought this was the case already.

I hope they are able to get 25K pre-orders and expand their geographic sales coverage after that.

The staffing and funding is the real difficult part.

Agreed. I will also add that a lack of leadership and gumption is also a challenge. You need commitment and inspiration to successfully execute such a project in a democracy.

I am not technical enough to evaluate whether what I am saying is correct, but my concern with using AOSP is that such a decision will result in 2nd tier clone apps.

It seems to me it would make much more sense to leverage industry policy (technical requirements, grants for developers) to develop a “clean slate” solution.

I had a Nokia N900, it worked pretty well for 2010 (apps weren’t as big then and mobile web worked surprising well). I am done with Android and American corruption. I am not buying another Android phone; looking forward to getting a Jolla device once they add support for Ukraine (even with no official support).

You are likely correct that forking Android would be a better (cheaper and more efficient) option. But I can’t get rid of the feeling that it’s best to do a clean break with American oligarchy and make design choices that reflect regional priorities.

Agreed. Hardware supply chains and ecosystem externalities are an extremely challenging area and it will take both industrial policy and de facto tariffs to raise the cost of devices with non-local components.

I was refering to the software/OS. An operating system and platform that has nothing to do with Android, iOS or HarmonyOS. I think in theory, software can have faster market adoption.

How it does very well and it even gets up to 10K+.

I just realized that I can’t pre-order even if I wanted to since I am not in EU/UK/Norway/Switzerland.

We really need an Android alternative with no involvement from American or Chinese companies.

How well does this work for W10?

Some of the mods explicitly mention supporting only W11, does that mean others are tested/usable on W10?

Excactly, I meant that I can’t continue with Android anymore (let alone iOS).

Can’t buy in at this point, but I will most probably buy it early next year, hopefully the crowd-buy goes through.

I can’t participate in ecosystems run by corrupt Americans (such as Android or iOS). They’ve been posturing about “freedoms” for so long that they’ve totally lost understanding of the true meaning of freedom.

I am done with their bullshit.

I thought this was single extension publicly named as ShadyPanada

I get the concept of these tools, but why do you need a link/copy of the output? Why is a copy even saved (and is publicly accessible via kindergarten level deduction?)?

Wouldn’t your just paste the processed code back into your local/company code repository/servers?

They will give up on “Aluminium OS” in 12 to 18 months.

I got hit by a similar exploit for WinRAR, it was a very sneaky XMR miner that took over mg whole system and would push the CPU to the max or mine XMR.

I was only able to get rid of it via safe made and luck (I was able to find a removal tool via a non-english forum, I suspect they dlacoid targeting US and EU).

I will have to consider joining this.

Google cannot be trusted.

The Xiaomi Mi A1 from late 2017 had very good ROM/rooting capabilities when I last used it 4-5 years ago. It didn’t have a removable battery though. The second sim slot can function as a microSD card and it has a 3.5 mm audio port.

Checking the LOS website, they say it has support for LOS 20 / Android 13, which is pretty impressive considering the official ROM only went up to Android 9.0. I stopped using the device on LOS 17.1 / Android 10.

2 years is pretty rough by modern standard.

I don’t think open Android is viable.

It’s technically open, but it’s structured in a way that it’s de facto not open.

I am personally planning to move over to a Linux phone of some sort. Going to keep my A73 for critical apps/use cases and slowly move over to a Linux phone.

In a way, it’s good that Google is killing sideloading (in the real sense, where I decide what gets installed, not some hoodlums in Mount View or wherever).

Yes, I am in Europe.

I actually had a Nokia N9 back in the day until I lost it.

Jolla is on my watchlist.

I suspect I will keep my old phone for banking/e-government/work apps.

I really hope there will be some solid development on Linux phones in the coming year.

I will have to drop Android once it’s not possible to use F-Droid. This is a red a line for me. In a way it’s a good thing, it will help with my goal of dropping Americans services/products.