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Google Removes ‘Pirate’ URLs from Users’ Privately Saved Links::undefined
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Man, they really want you to use Firefox
I can’t imagine depending on Google to store anything. They shouldn’t be able to even see what links you save.
As someone who just converted from Chrome to Firefox 1-2 months ago: what alternative can you recommend to Google Drive? I wouldn’t miss everything from it, but being able to easily share data (so that they can play videos, audio files or documents without having to manually download them) is one of them.
EDIT: and maybe Google Photos. Mainly for syncing.
Nextcloud has most, if not all, of the features of drive in my experience.
(Don’t everyone hit me) the snap version of nextcloud is dead simple to stand up. But if you are adamantly opposed to snap, the docker version is semi-easy to get going. Or you could just spin up a linode instance with it on there for like $5/mo.
This is all a self-hosted/self-responsible option though. So back it up etc.
Thanks for the idea. I’m mainly looking for storage that I could access even if I blow up my house.
This.
I invested in my personal infrastructure a bit. Bought an old retired Dell R710 server for $100, installed proxmox on it. Nextcloud is basically a one-click install using a Turnkey Linux container.
My setup clearly isn’t for everyone, but if you’ve got $100 to spare for some hardware and aren’t afraid of running your own server, proxmox is free and crazy powerful.
For storage, for free options I’d recommend filen.io, which gives you 10GB free. If you’re open to other paid options, proton drive and infomaniak drive seem alright.
Just skimming the alternativeto entries for google photos, the open source alternatives to Google photos look like they tend to be either paid or self hosted. Stingle Photos has a free 1GB tier you could try out. Otherwise, paid options include Stingle, ente, and seafile, and self hosted options include immich and Nextcloud (which is also a drive alternative).
Wow, thanks for the detailed answer! I wouldn’t mind a paid service as long as it’s not significantly more expensive than what Google can offer. However, I’m a bit more conscious regarding data security. I checked on mega.io and I’ve read mixed opinions.
Depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Nextcloud is the closest in terms of features but you’ll need to set it up.
I have a ProtonDrive account and I like it but it doesn’t have auto upload of photos. You need to manually upload them. I’m personally fine with this since 90% of my photos are receipts and junk.
I use Sync.com for years (since 2015 after my very privacy heavy swiss cloud service shut down). It’s Canadian, the end-to-end encryption (on device,upload and cloud) is the highest I encountered and it’s extensive zero-knowledge policy was my reason to sign up.
They added some nice sharing features with quite the extensive control and easy Setup. So might be worth checking out.
And obligatory referral link for a free account 🙃:
Protonmail has smaller cloud storage, but you have to pay for it. A thumb drive will work.
I’ve switched over to Proton for email, calendar and drive. I still haven’t found a replacement for Google Photos but I’m looking for one.
Have you tried iPhoto with Advanced Protection enabled?
Mega.io created by Kim Dotcom is (mostly) open source.
I wouldn’t trust anything involving fucking Kim Dotcom lmao
I’ve read some concerning stuff about him. The usual counterargument was that the source code was still open/public, but I can imagine he could still do nasty stuff to the plain data if he wanted to.
Proton drive gives a lot less storage for free but is known to be more secure and private
Thanks, I will take a look.
My work, which is supposed to keep things private for customers, stores so much on Gmail and Google Drive. It’s comical to me.
What type of company? I, too, find it comical. There was a lot of cloud resistance due to privacy and control issues in financial services years ago. Concerns were justified. Nothing changed except managements’ attitudes because “everybody else is doing it”.
Don’t want to say, sorry. Let’s just say it’s more industrial than financial services.
Oh in our company the CTO still has cloud resistance… But at the same time also feels comfortable sharing sensitive documents over Skype, Outlook and Teams…
D I T C H
C H R O M E
And stop using chromium browsers too!
No point in ditching chrome just to use chrome with a different coat of paint.
Yep! A few months ago I moved from Brave to Firefox since Brave can’t be trusted
isn’t it alright if you use ungoogled-chromium? It sends 0 requests outward so it’s completely safe.
I’m pretty sure the other browsers have to comply too
I’m hosting my own sync servers with bookmarks for firefox, if I don’t delete it nobody will.
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This feels like a corporation complying with their obligations under the DMCA.
To maintain their safe harbor status, companies have to remove allegedly infringing content in response to a properly filed takedown notice. This does include links stored in google’s search results. This is what a company like google has to do when storing user data on servers in any country that signed the WIPO Copyright Treaty.
They don’t seem to be doing this in a malicious way. They have done their duty and removed the offending links from their service. But they quite kindly chose to notify the user by email, including the exact URL that was removed. The user can store that link elsewhere.
It would have been far easier to remove the link silently.
See, this is why I like reading comments. Cooler heads prevail. Thank you for the context.
And yet, I can still google torrent sites
Google search really has gone downhill. I’m using fence on my phone and it defaults to duckduckgo. Gotta say, it’s just as good, occasionally a little better.
Don’t rely on online service to save your stuff.
Edit: how can i exclude < and > from being interpreted?
Usually a backslash (the one under the backspace key, not the one that shares a key with ”?") before a character that would usually be treated as a formatting instruction will stop it from being interpreted as such. Could be different for other machine-interpreted languages but when used this way, the backslash is called an “escape character”.
The \ key. And you might ask how I wrote that symbol without it gettting interpreted. Well, by writing \\.
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But that didn’t work for ‘angle braket open’ text ‘angle braket close’? Not even in code tag right now.
How about using “<” and “>” (“<” and “>”, respectively)?Edit: Okay, I see what you mean. That is strange. Not sure what to do about that but will look around.
It’s a forward slash, to be clear. There’s not two backslashes on the keyboard.
I specified the location of the backslash as a way to tell the difference between that and the forward slash. Probably could have made my intent more clear if I’d stated that the slash sharing a key with the question mark was the forward one as you mention but didn’t see a need.
Imagine being downvoted because someone else can’t figure out the difference between a forward and back slash.
Lemmings, weird breed. Lots of chuds, it seems.
What excuse are they using if it turns out that the takedown request was false?
Would they undelete the private user’s lists?
Would they reimburse anybody for the damage?
Maybe it will make people see Google for what they are. So many are stuck in some kind of illusion.
They did a lot of good for the FOSS community for many years. Unfortunately, those days are long gone.
“You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain” — Harvey Dent
They’re an advertising company that tries to collect information about targets through products those targets use. That’s it
I signed up for a Google Ads account for a non-profit I volunteer with. I had to verify the organization with governing documents, okay, fair enough. They also “require” my drivers license or passport. Excuse me? We will no longer have a Google Ads account after Sept 15 (the cut off to verify my identity).
I think because the moment you admit to yourself that Google is not so good a company, you are forced to recognize most are not and that is too much for many to swallow.
Honestly, the only useful Google service these days is gmail. And that’s only because I don’t want to deal with changing providers after 15 years.
There’s gotta be an app for that, though that could ve dangerous since you’re letting it access your Gmail.
Yeah, the issue is with going through every service you’ve used that you might use again and changing the email. That can take many hours, depending on how many sites you have an infrequent need to use.
It took me about 6 months to de-gmail. Well worth it in the end. Im with paid protonmail now.
You can ‘future proof’ your mail by using your own domain and use it with your proton account.
So if you want or need to change your mail provider or self host in the future, you just need to redirect your domain to your new provider.
I wish other providers had the tab system that Gmail has, I’d switch in a heartbeat if it did. Folders just aren’t as convenient.
Many do. I use labels on Fastmail and it’s great!
To be fair, I use labels like folders, so I probably wouldn’t notice the difference.
I don’t use this (Google Saved?) and I’m unfamiliar with it, is it similar to Pocket?
Is it this: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9217379
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it’s not synced bookmarks, collections are a confusingly similar service
It’s wierd. 4 Days ago I got an email saying they removed a link from my saved websites. Only the link, in the email, was of a reddit post from 8 years ago on how to plug in speakers into a Motherboard I used to have??? How is that piracy? Its on the buildapc subreddit.
You should be asking how the fuck do these cunts still have a reputation that you are supporting?
Googles new, but not announced motto is, “We are the evil”.
That motto ain’t even new. It’s been a thing for at least a close to a decade now if you ask me.
it also removed all of my saved places from google maps. thanks i like it
I don’t think that’s related
They had the pirate chests locations.
it isn’t but nobody is going to post a news article about it so I’m just fucked
“trust me bro”
I think the word private in “privately saved” should be in quotes, clearly.
Remember kids - firefox was built off the netscape navigator kernel. A download for FF is a vote for the right side of antitrust history (and therefore future)
This has got nothing to do with browsers. The article is saying that if you use an online Google service to save Google search results, then when they are forced to take said search result down due to DMCA then it also is (obviously) gone from the saved collection. This could just as easily happen in Firefox if you use Google’s saved pages service, which is a bit like Pinterest. Meanwhile Chrome, like Firefox, never touches your actual bookmarks
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Oh boy, I’m feeling ultra smug now. Been using a Keepass database synced via Syncthing for about 3 years now
I use it too…but I like to spell it KeepAss.
Thank you dear friend, I’ll be using that from now on as well. KeepAss!
