• anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    We are ideologically opposed and will not support your candidates. We do not want the same future as liberals, we are not on your side.

    Liberals have more in common with their republican counterparts than any leftists have with democrats

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      3 months ago

      So…. You didn’t bother answering my question I noticed. Is it that you know the answer will unravel your entire argument?

      Tell me- when has not voting brought change?

      We both know the answer. You’re just too afraid to say it out loud because doing so, will force you to face the fact that you’re actively working against everyone that is trying to avoid America becoming a dictatorship.

      You’re not ever getting what you want. You know that, right? Because clearly politics don’t work the way you think it does- this is evident in the fact that what you want contradicts itself entirety. In order to get what you want- LAWS HAVE TO CHANGE. But you refuse to vote for the people that actually would change those laws.

      In essence- you’re fine with things the way they are and don’t give a shit enough to take the effort do actively do anything g to change it.

      instead- you’re fine to have no active role in making America a better place for marginalized citizens.

      Oh, and thank you for at least admitting you don’t give a shit. I know it wasn’t a direct statement, but we all got the message loud and clear.

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        3 months ago

        You can keep talking to your blue in the face, there’s a larger chance you would vote for Donald Trump than I would vote for either one of them. Imagine the way that you feel about Republicans not representing your interests, that’s how I feel about both of them. They do not represent the working class. They represent the donor class, not us.

        And since Democrats have all but given up on campaigning, they’re allowing their constituents to conduct their campaign for them. They’re doing a rather shitty job trying to persuade people to vote in their favor. Voters are leading by the example set by the party “shut the fuck up and fall in line, NOW!”

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          Cool. Be sure to tell all the people that will suffer under trump that you were too busy being smug and selfish to be bothered trying to help them in any way.

          One vote dude.

          You’re not special. They won’t know you did or didn’t do anything. But no, your smug and selfish ideology won’t allow you to compromise to save people you know will suffer.

          Fucking disgusting man.

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            3 months ago

            Oh, you must be talking about the same people that are suffering right now. You know, the marginalized, immigrants, LGBTQ+, women’s rights, the working class, etc, etc, etc.

            Voting for the people that are keeping them marginalized is smug and selfish.

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              3 months ago

              Cool story. See what your smug selfishness causes. I’m done trying to reason with you.

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                  I’ve been trying, but Lemmy seems to be full of liberals that hate socialists more than fascists. It’s no wonder they’re toeing the party line and lashing out at everyone that doesn’t.

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                    3 months ago

                    They would rather uphold fascism then potentially lose the bread crumbs they get tossed. If they would stop fighting the left they could get the entire loaf instead of settling for table scraps

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                  3 months ago

                  Oh the irony. Let’s see whose ramblings have been removed for misinformation and trolling more, shall we?

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                    Doing a 2016 rerun, are we?

                    This is just like when the party conspired to nominate Hillary. Leftists who pointed out that this was a bad idea got kicked from liberal spaces en masse for their entirely justified lack of faith in the candidate.

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      Then are you more aligned with the Republicans or the Democrats? Like it or not, the election system only supports two parties. That’s what we should be pushing towards changing rather than hurting ourselves.

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        I’m not aligned with either, they represent the donor class, not us. They represent money while we get tossed table scraps.

        The idea of reforming within is futile, no new blood obtains any positions of power until it’s determined they are not a threat to the existing power structure.

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          Third parties under the First Past the Post voting system are literally the threat to the power structure that will just keep them pushed down by the major parties.

          The major parties may be afraid of sharing power now, but they are also seeing the threat of losing power completely when they can’t keep their coalitions together.

          We see Democrats making a major move today with Biden stepping down from the race in order to placate parts of the party that are very unsatisfied. The threat is already more real today than it has ever been.

          I think that people will realize that we are all in alignment about reforming the election system being better for the country, even to preserve a large part of the current power structure.