Remindes me of the tweet that said something like “My favorite moment on the internet was when someone said, they believe that people will changed their mind when given evidence. Then I linked TWO SOURCES that said otherwise and they were like I still believe it.”
Or when a hexbearian explained to me that hexbear isn’t toxic at all, it’s just when people refuse to read sources but than it’s their fault for not engaging with the material. Later they refused to open my sources.
The person you’re talking to is unlikely to be pursuaded but there’s usually silent, invisible lurkers who can be.
I know I’ve changed my mind on things because of arguments I’ve read on the internet.
It is proven that people do double down on their views when confronted with opposing evidence, but IMO this is more about the psychology of trust and confrontation between individuals, rather than proof of the futility of argument as a concept. Hell, Vsauce made a video called ‘The Future of Reasoning’, where he makes the case that argument might have been selected for as an essential part of human psychology and necessary for our survivial.
One of the most refreshing things I’ve seen since joining Lemmy is people actually apologizing in comment threads like this.
I’m sorry to hear that! Don’t worry, it’ll get better as more people join, just you wait!
Sorry
Wether it’s on the internet or at a bar counter, I like to engage in debate to better myself. If your goal is to turn every fanatic that crosses your path, you’re gonna be depressed real soon.
You don’t realize that you’re wrong in the moment. The idea bounces around in your head long enough for your brain to decide it was your own conclusion. We can become less biased, but make no mistake: our brains are a total mess.
This is what happens when evolution throws hardware at a problem, succeeds, and it’s still poorly optimized.
Realizing you’re wrong while you’re still tilted is the weirdest feeling.
I don’t argue to make them change their mind, I argue to make them angry >:)
So you’re a troll?
Haven’t thought about it like that, but I guess you’re right. Though, I can comfort myself in thinking I only “troll” bad people.
No they don’t
Well actually they do.
According to this trusted source.
I know this is just a joke, but I’m reading a book on quitting right now and one of the points she is driving home is that if you quit at the right time, it tends to feel too early to quit.
How to differentiate it from actually quitting too early?
It feels too early. The idea is that you have to recognize your own cognitive and social biases that make us want to persist and objectively determine whether it makes sense to go on.
The trick is to argue with the voices in your own head and simply project them on to other people’s comments.
Wait, you mean internet arguments aren’t a game of chicken where the winner is whoever gets the last reply?
