I get that until recently it was considered normal and relatively cheap, but you are literally paying someone else to make food for you.

It can’t be sustainable without exploitation of workers and/or animal welfare to have that available to the majority of people on a regular basis.

If you can only afford fast food as a luxury, to me that seems like a good thing.

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    I’ll use AT&T as an example, because that’s who I use as a cell phone provider. You can buy inexpensive pre-paid plans for as low as $40/month, with a one-time fee for a sub-$100 dumb phone.

    Smart phones - which have a higher barrier of entry - are most certainly luxuries, and most certainly are not a requirement. And people who need access to computers have low cost or no-cost alternatives, such as using free public libraries.

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      I see at least 8 sub $100 smart phones on craigslist right now. Couple that with pre-paid/barebones plans and it’s just as cheap as your “dumb” phone.

      You’re being pedantic as hell about this and having to make a trip to the library to do online shit after working two jobs, cooking every single meal you eat, most people just don’t have the time/energy.

      (And btw, that phone you’re using as an example is a smart phone running android 11.)

      To add to this, I used to buy the AT&T pre-paid phones all the time that were smart phones. Paid $40 for the phone (ZTE Blade Spark Z971) and used it on a regular plan. So, in all reality, it goes right back to how and where you spend your money. Smart phones don’t have this huge barrier of entry anymore. They are super easy to get for super affordable prices. The problem you’ll run into will be the plans you can get.

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        We cook almost every meal we eat, last time we had a meal out was a week ago because friends were in town. For the cost of that meal, we could’ve made at least 24 individual servings at home (we know our average serving costs).

        It took some time, and started with cooking dinners (especially on weekends), which produced leftovers that can be used for lunches. Which frees up time to plan and prep the next thing.

        I’ve largely eaten the same breakfast for 10 years now, because it’s easy, fast, and addresses some health issues (diabetes in family).

        Breakfast takes 15 minutes to make, and you’d think it came from a diner.

        Our recipe book has an index for dishes that work well as leftovers, one for fast weeknight meals, one for things that can be frozen, etc, so we can plan better. On any given day we have a dozen meals worth of frozen, but home-made dishes that just go in microwave or convection oven with minimal other work.

        We also have a meal calendar (like you had in grade school for lunches), so we can work ahead a little (mostly for days where there are appointments that can interfere).

        It can be done, it just requires prioritizing. I stopped playing games on my pc, we don’t turn on the TV until the day’s tasks are done (and I mean everything, including prepping for tomorrow), and I usually do some planning while watching TV at the end of the day.

        If nothing else, even doing a big cook one day a week and freezing portions will give you breathing room. So you feel like you can do a little more later. The alternative is to stay where you are, spend 5-10x as much for food that is nutritionally mostly empty.

        When I was working two (or 3) jobs, my roommate and I would work together to make big meals, package them up for the next day, then do it again as soon as we had time. That way we always had something in the fridge ready to go.

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      A friend of mine switched from a dumb phone to a smart phone some time in around 2015. He said that the dumb phone was keeping him isolated from the rest of the world. He was unable to communicate with the with certain people because they were sending messages using whatsapp, facebook and all that modern spyware trash. It was too late to stick to a dumb phone back then, and now it’s even worse. If you want to isolate yourself from the people around you, a dumb phone has become an excellent tool to achieve that.