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    And let’s not pretend that the US isn’t a two-party system.

    Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Your choices are Trump or Biden.

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            Question: Does this heightened level of nuance transfer onto a FPTP voting system?

            Answer: absolutely not.

            Your comment should read “One can dislike Biden without demanding voters elect a bigger dipshit”

            But it doesn’t.

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          This whole thing of “you need to lie about the facts to make one side look way better than they are or else you are campaigning for the other side” thing needs to go. It just needs to go. It isn’t fooling anyone, and it just makes everyone doing it come across as idiots. Own your stance, be honest about what we can all see, and try to explain why you feel like you do from base reality. I know you’ve been told it makes you a traitor or whatever, but it simply doesn’t. It makes you come across as a genuine person, and it makes the things you say have more weight.

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              My agenda is to see more honest discussions. It is not a hidden agenda. I am very open about it. I, and many other people, honestly believe that Joe is doing a horrific job. I also honestly believe that Trump would do a horrific job. I am disgusted by the fact that nobody who could potentially make it into the White House has shown anything but complete and utter contempt for the innocent lives in Gaza.

              I absolutely refuse to pretend that Biden is great for Gaza in some pathetic attempt to trick idiots who somehow haven’t paid attention into thinking that Biden isn’t floating in am Olympic sized pool of children’s blood. I’m not saying Trump will do any better, and I’m not saying I will vote for Trump. All I am saying is that we will all be better off if vocal people like yourself were to at least try to have honest dialogs. No strawman, no hidden agenda, just plain, honest discussion. The thing that has offended you so deeply can be summed up in a single word. Honesty.

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              I’m happy to engage in nuanced, fair, complex discourse about US politics with anyone who wants to have it, and I have criticisms of my party.

              Do tell. What criticisms do you have of the Democratic Party?

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                  So willing to make claims, but way more willing to run away when called to stand up for them. If you start trying to make honest claims, then this wouldn’t happen, instead you would be glad to back them up.

                  Edit: typo

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                    “You don’t have to attend every argument you’re invited to.”

                    So no, thanks. I don’t owe you a defense, engagement, or an policy apologetics treatment of the current administration’s governance for the last four years. There are plenty of places to find that information if you actually care to find it.

                    So far you’ve managed to call me an idiot, a liar, and a coward in all of about fifteen minutes. Why on earth would I believe you’re capable of nuanced political discourse? We’ve nothing to discuss.

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          That is not at all what’s happening. The world is much less black and white than you think.

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              I guess you’re conveniently forgetting about yesterday where you made an absolute fool of yourself and got caught lying.

              Btw I’m STILL waiting on that answer.

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                Just reviewed those threads. It’s no where near as clear cut as you describe here. Your comment comes off pretty creepy, kinda stalkery

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                    Yeah like, I’m not gonna say I agree with your stance on everything. But to follow people around is the lamest thing ever. Someone did that to me months ago and eventually got banned. Super creepy.

                    I’d say just block em. I think they won’t see you either then?

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            Oh I know. Trust me, I don’t engage with these people with any illusions. There’s no arguing with the agitprop element here. The point of responding at all is just to identify them to the general public.