She points to the head start Jerome is being given, saying that 90 per cent of the $20,000 a year he makes is being put into an account for him when he’s an adult.
90%? Yeah I’m sure he agreed to this, but that’s 18k a year (assuming it continues at this rate with no interest, etc. by the time he’s 18 it’ll be whatever is in there now + 252k) and I mean it is a pretty good head start. But still like what future implications is this going to have for him?
Will he get bullied in high school?
Miss out on jobs over baby photos?
Be discouraged from studying by having so much money?
AI generated CSAM?
Call me out of touch but all of those things are possible. Plus what is his work arrangement? What are his rights? I thought you had to be 14 or something to be able to work. The fact that his mum justifies it with money is absurd, and I’m sure she’s enjoying that extra 2k a year.
While those are all valid concerns, the focus on direct harms sort of overlooks all the other ways in which social media can corrupt a child. What kind of adult do these children who grow up online, obsessed with the validation and attention of strangers, turn into? There has been a pretty alarming increase in the rates of anxiety and depression among teenagers around the world and it corresponds closely with the rise of smartphones and social media platforms like Instagram. It’s really concerning to me that so many parents are not questioning this level of integration within their child’s life of products and systems we know can be harmful to fully grown adults and that are intentionally designed to be addictive. The kids in this investigation were extreme examples, but “normal” children are also being exposed to this environment from an early age, with minimal supervision, during a period when we know their brains are rapidly developing and highly malleable. That should concern us more than it seems to.
Fully agree, I think the reason why parents aren’t questioning it is because they are addicted to it as well, but fail to recognise the mental health problems because they are a bit older and probably more resilient. They don’t understand that the way a child’s mind works is very different to that of an adult and wayyy more vulnerable. Deleting my Instagram account was one of the best things I have ever done for my mental health. All commercial social media is shit, but also so is Lemmy when used not through the web UI (i.e. an app that will let you scroll forever on ‘all’).
It was teenagers born in the mid-to-late 90s who first started displaying this trend so I think you’re right that most parents of children today will have either spent all or the majority of their own childhood away free from that combination of smartphones and social media and are possibly more resilient as a result. Jonathan Haidt has also made the point that a lot of millennial parents grew up during a sort of “techno-optimism” era where people genuinely believed that the internet and this new technology was the greatest thing ever for human learning and communication and would bring us all closer together. There hasn’t really been any sort of collective pushback against that idea by our institutions until very recently so I think it’s understandable that there is sort of a delay in that message filtering back through society to parents.
I was just watching a TV series last night with a typical scene in which a mother was struggling to have a conversation with her teenage daughter because the child was essentially addicted to the social media on her phone. It was played for laughs, and it sort of dawned on me that basically every single depiction of this interaction in media is in a harmless “kids will be kids” sort of way. Like parents are frustrated by it but at the same time it’s sort of just assumed that there are no deeper long-term repercussions and that it’s just a different manifestation of typical teenager behaviour all generations exhibit. I think that perception is going to be quite hard to change and it probably explains why we’ve been so slow as a society to wake up to the possible risks despite warning signs that seem increasingly obvious as our hindsight grows.
There was actually an announcement from the QLD government in the last two days with these statements from the chief health officer:
“Globally, we are seeing a concerning deterioration in the mental health and wellbeing of young people – and we are taking action to combat this in many ways.
“The increase in self-harm events observed among young Australians since about 2008 looks just like a new virus epidemic. This period coincides with the introduction of smart phones and social media apps.
“We believe there is growing evidence that the health and wellbeing of young Queenslanders is being harmed by unrestricted access to social media, and it requires a public health response.
“There are benefits to social media including social connection for those who may be isolated – but it’s important there is a balance. Children under 14 years may not be equipped with the emotional maturity to deal with its complexity.
“Parents of older teenagers should also remain active in understanding and guiding the amount of time their children spend on screens, including for social media activities.
“As the state’s leading public health body, Queensland Health has a duty to inform the Queensland public of our position and concerns around unrestricted social media use in children and its effect on mental health and wellbeing.
“It’s time for Queenslanders – both adults and children – to start a conversation about this important issue.”
The announcements from the premier look promising as well (even if we are heading into an election), though I believe SA might’ve been the first state to start talking about it.
90%? Yeah I’m sure he agreed to this, but that’s 18k a year (assuming it continues at this rate with no interest, etc. by the time he’s 18 it’ll be whatever is in there now + 252k) and I mean it is a pretty good head start. But still like what future implications is this going to have for him?
Call me out of touch but all of those things are possible. Plus what is his work arrangement? What are his rights? I thought you had to be 14 or something to be able to work. The fact that his mum justifies it with money is absurd, and I’m sure she’s enjoying that extra 2k a year.
Crazy idea: Children aren’t property
While those are all valid concerns, the focus on direct harms sort of overlooks all the other ways in which social media can corrupt a child. What kind of adult do these children who grow up online, obsessed with the validation and attention of strangers, turn into? There has been a pretty alarming increase in the rates of anxiety and depression among teenagers around the world and it corresponds closely with the rise of smartphones and social media platforms like Instagram. It’s really concerning to me that so many parents are not questioning this level of integration within their child’s life of products and systems we know can be harmful to fully grown adults and that are intentionally designed to be addictive. The kids in this investigation were extreme examples, but “normal” children are also being exposed to this environment from an early age, with minimal supervision, during a period when we know their brains are rapidly developing and highly malleable. That should concern us more than it seems to.
Fully agree, I think the reason why parents aren’t questioning it is because they are addicted to it as well, but fail to recognise the mental health problems because they are a bit older and probably more resilient. They don’t understand that the way a child’s mind works is very different to that of an adult and wayyy more vulnerable. Deleting my Instagram account was one of the best things I have ever done for my mental health. All commercial social media is shit, but also so is Lemmy when used not through the web UI (i.e. an app that will let you scroll forever on ‘all’).
It was teenagers born in the mid-to-late 90s who first started displaying this trend so I think you’re right that most parents of children today will have either spent all or the majority of their own childhood away free from that combination of smartphones and social media and are possibly more resilient as a result. Jonathan Haidt has also made the point that a lot of millennial parents grew up during a sort of “techno-optimism” era where people genuinely believed that the internet and this new technology was the greatest thing ever for human learning and communication and would bring us all closer together. There hasn’t really been any sort of collective pushback against that idea by our institutions until very recently so I think it’s understandable that there is sort of a delay in that message filtering back through society to parents.
I was just watching a TV series last night with a typical scene in which a mother was struggling to have a conversation with her teenage daughter because the child was essentially addicted to the social media on her phone. It was played for laughs, and it sort of dawned on me that basically every single depiction of this interaction in media is in a harmless “kids will be kids” sort of way. Like parents are frustrated by it but at the same time it’s sort of just assumed that there are no deeper long-term repercussions and that it’s just a different manifestation of typical teenager behaviour all generations exhibit. I think that perception is going to be quite hard to change and it probably explains why we’ve been so slow as a society to wake up to the possible risks despite warning signs that seem increasingly obvious as our hindsight grows.
There was actually an announcement from the QLD government in the last two days with these statements from the chief health officer:
The announcements from the premier look promising as well (even if we are heading into an election), though I believe SA might’ve been the first state to start talking about it.
https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/100371