Donald Trump is close to running out of time in his last-ditch bid to stave off the historic stigma of being the first former president to go on criminal trial next week.
Well I wouldn’t hold my breath for this one. While he surely did it, it looks like the maximum penalties would be fines and probation for class e felonies in new york, though IANAL. Edit: see also comment below, sounds like small possibility of jail time.
Georgia case has a possible appeal pending after that whole relationship debacle. If the Georgia court of appeals takes it up it could push it well past the November election. Otherwise might be able to go to trial in August.
The Jan 5th case had a trial date, but because the Supreme Court took up the “presidential immunity” proposal from Trump to hear, that trial date got canceled while the appeal was being heard. That ruling should be heard by June. Hopefully they could get it rescheduled soon after that since they had been about ready to go to trial, assuming the supreme court doesn’t rule in Trump’s favor (big assumption).
The stealing classified documents and lying repeatedly to the national archives and fbi and trying to cover it up case was first held up by judge Cannon. She accepted some fight Trump made against the search warrant based on nonsense rulings and prevented the investigators from accessing the documents for like six months before an appeals court finally dismissed the whole thing and gave investigators access to the documents. Then she got assigned the criminal case too after charges were filed (thanks to a random lottery system that because of various factors only had like two judges in the pool to be picked from at the time) and she’s been constantly delaying and making nonsense rulings, and is clearly laying the ground work to try and acquit him herself in a way that’s unappealable after the trial begins. Unless Jack Smith can collect enough evidence and the court of appeals agrees to remove her before the trial, that case is probably sunk because of this judge (appointed by Trump, rated unqualified by the American bar association before Republicans rammed her nomination through).
So yeah, Trump getting the kids gloves all around thanks to the supreme court and other judges he appointed (and the Georgia prosecutor possibly tanking her whole case with a dumb relationship). And this doesn’t even touch on his civil cases.
The maximum penalty is quite a bit of jail time, simply because of the number of counts. First time offenders don’t really get the book thrown at them with this type of offense.
I think that if he is found guilty on all counts, the DA will probably ask for some jail time. The judge might not grant it, or might impose a sentence which would get suspended if Trump complies with the terms of probation. And I bet Trump would view having to visit a probation officer every week or so in NYC to be worse than jail. He can fundraise more easily from jail. So he will deliberately skip out on his probation officer, and double dog dare NY State to send the Troopers to apprehend him.
While there may well be grounds for Willis to incur professional consequences I still fail to see how her actions would impact the criminal proceedings about which I’ve heard no evidence her romantic decisions affected at all. The prosecutor may have been inexperienced…ok, did he do his job? Yes, AFAIK.
As with Cannon, he gets leeway everywhere you look. Leeway NOT afforded to others. It’s infuriating.
Yes it shouldn’t be able to derail the case in a just world, I just meant in practice that’s what is happening since it gives him yet another thing to appeal over. He filed an appeal with the Georgia court of appeals to again ask for all charges to be dismissed or for her to be removed from the case as well (which would create an extraordinary delay well past the election). Hopefully the Georgia court of appeals will just quickly knock it down and not delay the trial any more over it. There’s a danger that could happen though. If the Georgia state government goes after her as the case is ongoing who knows. And I agree, he is getting leeway everywhere, treated with kids gloves, appointing his own judges, it’s ridiculous. Even if the supreme court rules against presidential immunity, in practice he and all the judges that have helped him have made a mockery of the rule of law.
Agreed. It’s galling how he’s been able to time and again exploit the system up to and including SCOTUS. Such a disappointment how ineffective it turns out our system of justice is in the face of corruption.
The bet part of probation is that he will absolutely break the conditions of his probation. Sure, nothing will come of it because why would he face real consequences for anything, but it would be funny.
Well I wouldn’t hold my breath for this one. While he surely did it, it looks like the maximum penalties would be fines and probation for class e felonies in new york, though IANAL. Edit: see also comment below, sounds like small possibility of jail time.
Georgia case has a possible appeal pending after that whole relationship debacle. If the Georgia court of appeals takes it up it could push it well past the November election. Otherwise might be able to go to trial in August.
The Jan 5th case had a trial date, but because the Supreme Court took up the “presidential immunity” proposal from Trump to hear, that trial date got canceled while the appeal was being heard. That ruling should be heard by June. Hopefully they could get it rescheduled soon after that since they had been about ready to go to trial, assuming the supreme court doesn’t rule in Trump’s favor (big assumption).
The stealing classified documents and lying repeatedly to the national archives and fbi and trying to cover it up case was first held up by judge Cannon. She accepted some fight Trump made against the search warrant based on nonsense rulings and prevented the investigators from accessing the documents for like six months before an appeals court finally dismissed the whole thing and gave investigators access to the documents. Then she got assigned the criminal case too after charges were filed (thanks to a random lottery system that because of various factors only had like two judges in the pool to be picked from at the time) and she’s been constantly delaying and making nonsense rulings, and is clearly laying the ground work to try and acquit him herself in a way that’s unappealable after the trial begins. Unless Jack Smith can collect enough evidence and the court of appeals agrees to remove her before the trial, that case is probably sunk because of this judge (appointed by Trump, rated unqualified by the American bar association before Republicans rammed her nomination through).
So yeah, Trump getting the kids gloves all around thanks to the supreme court and other judges he appointed (and the Georgia prosecutor possibly tanking her whole case with a dumb relationship). And this doesn’t even touch on his civil cases.
The maximum penalty is quite a bit of jail time, simply because of the number of counts. First time offenders don’t really get the book thrown at them with this type of offense.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/04/05/will-trump-go-to-prison-counts-against-him-could-result-in-136-year-sentence-but-its-highly-unlikely/
I think that if he is found guilty on all counts, the DA will probably ask for some jail time. The judge might not grant it, or might impose a sentence which would get suspended if Trump complies with the terms of probation. And I bet Trump would view having to visit a probation officer every week or so in NYC to be worse than jail. He can fundraise more easily from jail. So he will deliberately skip out on his probation officer, and double dog dare NY State to send the Troopers to apprehend him.
Thank you for adding more details!
While there may well be grounds for Willis to incur professional consequences I still fail to see how her actions would impact the criminal proceedings about which I’ve heard no evidence her romantic decisions affected at all. The prosecutor may have been inexperienced…ok, did he do his job? Yes, AFAIK.
As with Cannon, he gets leeway everywhere you look. Leeway NOT afforded to others. It’s infuriating.
Yes it shouldn’t be able to derail the case in a just world, I just meant in practice that’s what is happening since it gives him yet another thing to appeal over. He filed an appeal with the Georgia court of appeals to again ask for all charges to be dismissed or for her to be removed from the case as well (which would create an extraordinary delay well past the election). Hopefully the Georgia court of appeals will just quickly knock it down and not delay the trial any more over it. There’s a danger that could happen though. If the Georgia state government goes after her as the case is ongoing who knows. And I agree, he is getting leeway everywhere, treated with kids gloves, appointing his own judges, it’s ridiculous. Even if the supreme court rules against presidential immunity, in practice he and all the judges that have helped him have made a mockery of the rule of law.
Agreed. It’s galling how he’s been able to time and again exploit the system up to and including SCOTUS. Such a disappointment how ineffective it turns out our system of justice is in the face of corruption.
The bet part of probation is that he will absolutely break the conditions of his probation. Sure, nothing will come of it because why would he face real consequences for anything, but it would be funny.