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    Lol goddamn “every accusation is a confession, no exceptions” is seriously the most braindead, brainwashed take. I mean, fuck, just say “often these accusations are confessions” and you won’t sound so hyperbolic and your statements would ring true. Leaving ZERO room for nuance is just such a bad take, man.

    So literally every anti-gay Republican is a closeted homosexual. Not a SINGLE one is just a rabid Christian, or just a bigot. Right? Lol jesus christ

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      Way to miss the point. Sometimes the confession is just that they’re a raging bigot. Sometimes it’s just a confession of ignorance.

      But try to find an accusation leveled by a prominent Republican against Democrats, liberals, progressives, or anyone else they hate that didn’t turn out to be a confession in the last 20 years.

      The assholes pushing bullshit about Biden “bribes” were actually just confessing to being easy marks for Russian intelligence. The assholes pushing birtherism were just admitting to being disgusting racists. The assholes calling LGBTQ+ people “groomers” keep getting caught with CSAM.

      My point is that while there is nuance to the nature of the hypocrisy and the projection, the bullshit accusations Republicans have been vomiting at everyone they hate for decades keep turning out ironically. To the point that when you hear Republicans use their mouths to shit something out about their hate-targets, you can rest assured that there’s something similarly ironic driving it.

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        Brainwashed take. Absolutely brainwashed. You’re also completely changing your argument. Im sure I could find a repub accusation that could be taken wholly at face value, and you’d say it was a confession of something else altogether.

        How about the Republicans that tanked their careers to break with Trump’s big lie? You think John McCain only spoke out of the sides of his mouth?

        Life isnt black and white. Some conservstive would say the same about Dems, and they’d be just as wrong and brainwashed as you are. Bye forever.

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          Meh. You have no rejoinders to any of my specific examples, so you resort to insults and non sequiturs about things that weren’t accusations in the first place.

          If a Republican behaves like John McCain, who didn’t debase himself by hurling stupid accusations at his political opponents, why would you assume I’m lumping that sort of person in with the bullshit-accusations crowd?

          I said every accusation is a confession. How the actual fuck do you apply that to someone who isn’t throwing around bullshit accusations in the first place?

          Fuck outta here with that illogical claptrap. Goodbye forever? Great. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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            Here you go, you brainwashed chucklefuck. You think I couldn’t Google every single senator and find accusations levied that aren’t a confession? Now tell me exactly how these are exceptions to your “nO eXcEpTiOnS” braindead take. Literally took 3 seconds to look these up, and you think not a single example exists across the entire political spectrum.

            I also note that you didn’t respond to my example of politicians that broke with trump and levied accusations at him, at the cost of their career. NO EXCEPTIONS DERRRR

            https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/john-mccain-rand-paul-rule-19-vladimir-putin/index.html

            https://time.com/5130826/john-mccain-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-fbi/

            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna388036

            For the record, I fully expect you to walk this back and tell me how “WELL THESE ARENT THE ACCUSATIONS I MEANT, I MEANT SPECIFICALLY [X]” even though you literally left no room for interpretation, nuance, or exceptions. Which was my exact point, which you clearly do not understand, through the reddit-induced brainwashed fog

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                Yeah, I’m kinda done with him. He said he was done with me, after all.

                It’s too bad, because I’m pretty sure this is down to a combination of misunderstanding hyperbole and misunderstanding exactly who I was talking about.

                The John McCain links are evidence of that, because McCain never hurled unfounded accusations with ironic truths underlying them at anyone.

                If, for example, McCain had embraced birtherism, the fact that he himself was born outside of the United States would have been a textbook example. But McCain had too much integrity to do that, so doesn’t fit the profile of accuser/confessor.

                For the life of me, I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. The formula is simple: Stupid, mendacious accusation == confession about an ironic, underlying truth. No stupid, mendacious accusation? No ironic, underlying truth.

                C’est la vie, I guess.

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                  Now I’d LOOOVE for you to tell me how

                  “Every accusation…Every single one. No exceptions.” is the same as “stupid, mendacious accusation”. Cause non-“stupid, mendacious accusations” certainly sounds like the literal definition of an exception to “every accusation…every one”

                  Betting you’ll sidestep or not answer tho lol

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                  The formula is simple: Stupid, mendacious accusation == confession about an ironic, underlying truth. No stupid, mendacious accusation? No ironic, underlying truth.

                  Holy shit, introducing nuance? It’s almost like you understand my point and changed your argument to exactly what I suggested it should have been in the first place, but would never admit that you were wrong! Wow, I’m completely shocked!

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                Repeatedly doubling down on your “100% no exceptions all Republicans are pure evil” is a path to a more divided America and is only one very small step away from calling for violence. I’m ok calling that person a braindead chucklefuck.