• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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    Wow…

    Is there some kind of tech CEO competition running or something?

    “Who can alienate their user base the fastest”

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      There’s a saying, " never attribute to malice what is easily explained by incompetence".

      But we’re quickly reaching the point where it’s no longer easily explained incompetence. Elon is either the most incompetent person in the known universe, which is saying a lot, or he’s doing this on purpose for some reason.

      I’m not into conspiracies, but it’s starting to make more sense if he’s actively trying to tank the stock.

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        There’s no stock to tank. You could argue that he’s trying to tank the company, but there are easier ways to do that.

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          You could argue that he’s trying to tank the company

          I’m kinda lost here. What’s his end goal with it?

          • 🇺🇦 seirim @lemmy.pro
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            Depriving the libs of a favored platform via making it conservative and unruly, and weakening its democratic potential against authoritarian states like Saudi Arabia, is the theory.

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          Yes there are, but he’s already with the SEC breathing on his neck for other scams so I guess he wants plausible deniability.

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            There’s no stock or similar security, so the SEC doesn’t care at all. Could be a plausible deniability thing, I just think it’s more likely that he really is that dumb, given the stories about Tesla/SpaceX having teams that basically existed just to control him.

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        I mean, 2024 isn’t that far away. It’s pretty clear who he’s pandering to in the name of “free speech” or “townsquare of the internet” or whatever shitty rationalization he uses to explains his nutty behavior.

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        Once upon a time, long ago, in the very beginning, I liked Twitter as a stream of instant information from all POV. Then Twitter became a haven for bots and a propaganda tool. Is it possible that Musk bought Twitter so that he could take it to the point of absurdity and destroy it?

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      Money. Tech was hot and trendy, so VCs were willing to continue pouring cash into a bottomless pit of unprofitable tech platforms, and now they’re not so everyone has to figure out how to make money off of the community. In a surprise to absolutely no one that’s been paying attention, companies filled with people that have never had to be profitable before are really bad at turning their company profitable and instead only manage to light large sections of it on fire. 🤷

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      Conservative money thinks that they can keep there opposition off balance by smashing social networks . Musk did not launch desatitis campaign out of nowhere.

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      At the top levels, they are rich and well-connected enough that they don’t have to worry about failing like regular people.

      They can burn millions, billions of dollars and still get out with a fat paycheck, a pat on the back, and another CEO/exec job lined up by one of their many wealthy friends. Either that, or they are “forced” into retirement where they live large for their remaining lives.

      I wish somebody would force me into a wealthy retirement…

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    Elon Musk is a gaping, farting anus. I pay as much attention to the sounds from a gaping, farting anus, as I do from him.

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    Elongated Muskrat has discovered just how many accounts are blocking him. His ego can’t take that. His FrEeSpEeCh must be heard

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        Nothing makes me cringe harder than the childish nicknames everybody keeps coming up with. Elongated Muskrat isn’t funny or offensive.

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      I’m skeptical of this, maybe it’s because he’s worried his fascist followers are slowly falling into an echo chamber cause anyone with more than a few braincells blocks them

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    Another great ideea from greatest Genius of our age! Of God how could we live without him until now! /s

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      It’s insane how ludicrous his ideas in particular seem to be, especially with Twitter. This has to be trolling, surely? Or does he not want to allow people to block him?

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        He’s already overridden people blocking him. You still see his posts.

        He’s just trying to make sure it stays useful as a weapon for fascists like himself is all.

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        He’s mask off now and he wants his very own version of free speech in your face. That means him and his nazi friends will abuse you to no end and if you reply he’ll ban you like the thin skinned bitch he is.

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        If you have your personal “ban from plattform entirely” button, why would you need a block button? Jeez you guys it’s so obvious.

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    “Hang on, Steve. Reddit can not and will not beat Twitter.” -Elon

    “Hold my beer, Elon! I’m probably going to shutdown the mobile reddit website.” -Steve

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    Ayyyy Elon, so we’re going for full chaos??

    Lemme grab my popcorn before the change starts a nuclear reaction.

    Surely a sight to behold. Lol

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      I quit Twitter after the infantile incident with Elon Musk carrying a sink around his own office. From all that we’ve seen in recent years it’s pretty clear he’s lucky to have been born rich, because he definitely isn’t the visionary we thought he was.

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      I made my first ever Twitter account a month or two before Musk bought it, for purely NSFW reasons. I’d log in every couple weeks or whatever, handle my business, and move along. After he bought it, I said whatever I’m not doing anything useful data wise so I’ll continue my few times a month visits.

      First post-Musk visit, it’s fine. Business handled, close my incog window, move on.

      Second post-Musk visit, I log in, and it’s CP as far as the eye can see. I immediately deleted my account.

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        Holy hell, on a serious country the government would go scorched earth on Twitter’s servers and sue tf outta Musk

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    With Mastodon as a strong alternative I really don’t understand why people use twitter at all anymore. There have been so many negative changes that have happened to twitter over the past 2 years.

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      The Mastodon culture just isn’t there yet. And it’s a bit of work to actually use. Plus “toots” sounds even more stupid than “tweets” and I’m not sure it will ever really take off.

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        Toots is no longer the official term, which has been replaced by “Posts”. Toots was always mostly a joke anyway

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            To be honest, there was years of backlash to the “tweeting” and “googling” but both made it into the lexicon. However it’s smart of Mastodon to just move to a normal terminology

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              A normal terminology also helps when explaining the concept of federating with other platforms, imagine saying: “When you join a pod, you can then send toots that can be seen by people in different magazines, even if they’re on different platforms!”

              I mixed the terminology of some 3 or 4 federated platforms to give an egregious example, but it helps drive the point. If we have a standard (the ActivePub) we can very well have a standard nomenclature for each feature.

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        This reminds me of the recent Behind the Bastards episodes where Robert reads the court filings of fired Twitter employees who continuously refer to themselves as Tweeps. At Mastadon they’d probably call themselves Tooters.

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      On one hand, Twitter lost 5% of its user base. It’s not a ton. On the other, it’s 15 million people give or take. That 5% is probably the sort I want to hang out with the most. Likewise for Reddit. 5% of Redditors are awesome and likely now Lemmy/KBin users. Those are the people I care about. It also allows for more quality connections when you have fewer people in your circle. Close connections are more valuable than more connections.

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        Yeah, all i want is it to be active enough. Having less users is a selling point to me. Using the internet way back in the day was the same way. You had to put effort in, and the people that are willing to put the effort in are less likely to trash the place.

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        undefined> Close connections are more valuable than more connections.

        It depends. Close connections of subject matter experts when discussing technical topics? Sure. When doing general research or looking for alternate solutions for something, you need mass. The difficulty of onboarding users into a federated environment hinders this.

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          I meant from social connections not technical experts. Frankly social media isn’t the place to get technical answers. It’s typically not great and most of the time is a hive mind mentality. Even on Reddit or stack exchange. I’ve seen decades of questions in my field and the answers with the most points are the ones that match the general hive mind not actual facts. It’s typically not worth it to get answers from social media.

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      Mastodon has a long way to go in the onboarding experience. Most non-technical Twitter users simply will not engage with Mastodon in its current form.

      Mastodon right now reminds me of email before web-based services. It’s not friendly enough to pull in the “normies”. It needs a Gmail.

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        Pick an instance and sign up. I don’t understand this take. Its literally the same as email and we all managed to figure that out when we were 9-11 years old.

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          Tell me you’ve never worked in tech support without telling me you’ve never worked in tech support.

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          In the browser. It’s not confusing to me, but I’m a software developer. Millions of Twitter users aren’t going to make it past the server selection step. And many that do are going to be confused when they click to Follow someone and get a weird popup (because that someone is on a different Mastodon instance) instead of instantly following the person.

          It’s nowhere close to a smooth enough experience for the lion’s share of Twitter users to transition over. I think people that are used to even slightly technical things vastly overestimate what the average end user is capable of handling. These are the people that ask for help to plug in an HDMI cable.

          • @legion Hmm. I would challenge anyone to go to mstdn.social for example and show me the onboarding friction.

            Signing up for an account on a #Mastodon instance is quite easy, if you’re doing so through the browser and go directly to the instance you want to join

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              When people say getting onto mastodon is hard I assume they must mean setting up an instance because even if soapbox and rebased are easier to use, it’s still just signing up for a website.

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            I feel like the hurdles are kind of features. If your elderly parents can’t figure out then they can’t well flood it with trash. Reddit was the same way at first, oh so long ago. People weren’t used to the format and users without any tech savvy were dissuaded from entry. That turned into a libertarian foundation. This time around the generations that are tech savvy aren’t libertarians, they’re progressives. So we’re seeing a progressive foundation in the federation become established, and that’s going to narrate the future culture here, just like libertarians narrated the culture of reddit for so long.

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            I think people are intimidated by step 3. Don’t ask me why, but for a certain type of web user, it’s an absolute deal breaker for some reason.

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              Tbh it’s capitalism. It teaches people to be afraid of choices, and to just take what the corporation is handing them. It’s… disconcerting how pervasive this kind of convenience culture has become and what kind of effect it’s having on people’s lives

              Fedi doesn’t have an onboarding problem, people have a capitalism problem

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                that is an interesting point. when people are confronted with the choice of where to store their data, they just nope out

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          The onboarding for Masterson is the best of all the fediverse sites but I still think the average internet user would get confused.

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      95% of the people or groups I would want to follow are not on Mastodon.

      And frankly, the Fediverse isn’t as user-friendly. It is a but tougher when you have to choose an instance, as well as learn how to follow from other instances.

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        And frankly, the Fediverse isn’t as user-friendly

        One component of a system being “user-friendly” is that it must not sabotage or undermine the user on behalf of the system’s proprietor.

        Unfortunately, this means that proprietary systems rarely remain user-friendly forever, as most proprietors eventually want to sabotage the user in some way or another, and can rarely resist the temptation forever.

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      I’ve built up a community of folk on there, not all of whom have moved to Mastodon. They’re the only people keeping me on there to be honest. I crosspost between the two for the time being

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    Fun fact: a block feature is required to be accepted by the Apple AppStore review process. So Twitter will disappear from Apple devices with this change.

    Since this got some votes and became visible, here’s the source:

    Apps with user-generated content present particular challenges, ranging from intellectual property infringement to anonymous bullying. To prevent abuse, apps with user-generated content or social networking services must include:

    - A method for filtering objectionable material from being posted to the app

    - A mechanism to report offensive content and timely responses to concerns

    - The ability to block abusive users from the service

    - Published contact information so users can easily reach you

    https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#user-generated-content

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      Hmm. Hate to be a downer, but that sounds like there needs to be a way for the service itself to block (ban) users and material, not for users to be able to bock other users. So I wouldn’t be too optimistic about Apple’s response…

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      Apple’s review process is inconsistent at best. I used to work for an iOS app and it took several years before they blocked our release for not having a report feature on products. Never had the ability to block users, despite the ability to DM people.

      Plus, for an app the size of Twitter, Apple will likely ignore most rules that doesn’t lose them money.

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      I’m gonna take a wild guess and say it won’t apply to him.

      Or if it does then he’ll just delete accounts he wants to block.