I think what @[email protected] was getting at was that we need to help people, especially men, to prevent them from becoming “a psychopath beyond reform”. Simply put, addressing the upstream problem
I know what they meant. I just disagree. Some people are just inherently fucked and intervention won’t always work. There are bad seeds out there unfortunately and ignoring this fact with wishful thinking won’t make it to away.
It only shows a tendency towards being psychopathic. Still it’s not like we can’t get to these people early. It’s quite unfair and your position would be different if you were born with these traits. It should be noted, that that study did not test genetics in isolation with environment also being a factor.
Well going back to your question, you asked whether people are born evil. The question was framed incorrectly. Which is why I responded with some people really are born with certain disposition.
You believe this can be overridden in all circumstances. I do not. You can try but it’s very dangerous to believe without a doubt this is true.
As I said before I believe your study was flawed in that it did not isolate the environmental effects (parents, community, wealth, etc.). I would expect environment to be a more significant factor. There haven’t really been many studies in this area. This is not a scientific debate, rather an ideological one.
I think what @[email protected] was getting at was that we need to help people, especially men, to prevent them from becoming “a psychopath beyond reform”. Simply put, addressing the upstream problem
I know what they meant. I just disagree. Some people are just inherently fucked and intervention won’t always work. There are bad seeds out there unfortunately and ignoring this fact with wishful thinking won’t make it to away.
So you believe that some people are just born evil?
Evil is a subjective term, but I believe traits of a psychopath are heritable and studies do support this.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/can-people-have-a-genetic-predisposition-towards-being-evil
It only shows a tendency towards being psychopathic. Still it’s not like we can’t get to these people early. It’s quite unfair and your position would be different if you were born with these traits. It should be noted, that that study did not test genetics in isolation with environment also being a factor.
I don’t mean to sound disrespectful, I just think it’s naive to think that early intervention is the magic bullet in all cases.
It’s like saying all paedophiles can be reformed.
If you can point to concrete empirical evidence that proves this, I would like to see it. I’ve not seen or heard of any myself.
You know full well that cannot be done in any circumstance for any argument based on science, this kind of reasoning is only valid in mathematics.
Well going back to your question, you asked whether people are born evil. The question was framed incorrectly. Which is why I responded with some people really are born with certain disposition.
You believe this can be overridden in all circumstances. I do not. You can try but it’s very dangerous to believe without a doubt this is true.
As I said before I believe your study was flawed in that it did not isolate the environmental effects (parents, community, wealth, etc.). I would expect environment to be a more significant factor. There haven’t really been many studies in this area. This is not a scientific debate, rather an ideological one.