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    10 months ago

    I would answer anti-fascist, but if someone asked me “Are you communist or anti-communist? Pick one” I would answer “neither”

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      You could pick either. There’s no problem with having communist ideologies or being for capitalism.

      There is a problem with fascism, it’s not comparable to communism. A closer example would be asking someone if they are a racist or not.

      We should be taking a hard line at certain ideologies and anyone that hesitate is suspect imo.

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        10 months ago

        Racist or anti-racist, really. Many people can answer “I’m not racist, but…(insert racist statement)”

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            I’m not racist, but have you tried substituting mayonnaise instead of butter on your grilled cheese sandwiches? It levels then up nicely.

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        The point is that “neither” indicates someone who does not agree with an ideology but also does not see it as a threat.

        You are of course free to treat that person accordingly.

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      Compulsory alliance is sort of a core feature of fascism so you really must be either fascist or anti-fascist.

      If fascist government is in power, it will creat a system in which non-partisan participation furthers and advances the fascist state, so one cannot “opt out”. Since a fascist system won’t entertain neutral, the question “Are you fascist or anti-fascist? You can only pick one.” Is not inherently disingenuous.

      Communism does not force people into supporting it, there “neither” is an acceptable answer to “Are you communist or anti-communist” in a way that cannot be applied to fascism.

      Well, Communism doesn’t force participation as long as you don’t ask the tankiis, but fuck the tankies.

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        If you live in a Communist state you won’t exactly have any way to “opt out” of it any more than you can just “opt out” of paying taxes.

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          That’s true for a culturally conservative Russian state that claims to be “communist” the way North Korea claims to be “democratic”.

          The USSR sucked ass because it was made of the same kind of Russians that we’re still fighting against today. The label they wear as a disguise, communist, capitalist, kleptocracy, or whatever “the commies” are calling themselves these days is irrelevant.

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            Like I said, Fuck the tankies.

            Leftist political theory can get very complex, and when people say communism they can mean a lot of things.

            Technically, Communism as per Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto, Communism isn’t a government. Communism is a state of anarchy in which people naturally share resources and the means of production communally and provide ownership does not exist as a cultural concept. So going by the original definitions “Communist Government” is an oxymoron. Explaining what the hell happened in Russia is a whole conversation.

            When people talk about communism or communist elements in a government, they are probably talking about some form of socialism.

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        non-partisan participation furthers and advances the fascist state, so one cannot “opt out”

        The same is true of the UK monarchy, yet plenty of Brits are neither for nor against it.

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          I’m not familiar with the British Monarchy so I can’t really comment on how appropriate your framing is.

          What I can point out is that your statement is logically inconsistent on its face.

          One can’t be neutral towards a fascist state because the fascist state won’t allow one neutral. In such a condition, anyone who claims to be neither for fascism or actively anti-fascism is pro-fascism because the condition of fascist power will direct all the labour and efforts of participants to the support of the fascist state. In such a condition, pro-fascist is the default condition, and anti-fascism can only be achieved through conscious effort and educated and effective praxis. There is no neutrality. One is not neutral in the face of fascism simply because one declares to be so.

          So, if the same conditions essential to fascism are true of the British Monarchy, then the nature of the political situation is stopping Brits from being neither for or against Monarchy. If your assumption that fascism is like the British Monarchy is true, then one could only be pro-monarchy, or achieve anti-monarchy through conscious and intentional effort.

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            In such a condition, anyone who claims to be neither for fascism or actively anti-fascism is pro-fascism

            You are not making any distinction between those who would want a fascist state to endure and those who would be indifferent to replacing it with something else. But I think that distinction gets to the heart of the question.

            You are also assuming that fascists and anti-fascists are only concerned about their own condition. Suppose you asked an American their opinion of Mussolini and they responded “He was terrible”. That’s clearly anti-fascist. But what if they responded “Never heard of him”? That’s neither pro or anti fascist, yet the neutral response won’t advance a fascist regime.