A bipartisan bill to address the surge of migrants at the southern border is sowing discord within the Senate GOP as Trump urges them to kill it.
Senate Republicans are in deep distress over whether to support a plan to fix the migrant crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border that includes key concessions they had demanded from Democrats months ago in exchange for approving new U.S. aid to Ukraine.
The bipartisan legislation is expected to be unveiled as early as Friday, giving senators time to review the text before a planned procedural vote next week. But with former President Donald Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) and much of the right whipping opposition to the bill before it has even been unveiled, its future in the Senate appears to be in serious jeopardy.
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Republicans have for years called on President Joe Biden to address the crisis on the border, insisting that the elevated flow of migrants is an urgent national security threat and calling for legislation to address it. But with an agreement in sight after four months of negotiations, many in the GOP now say that Congress doesn’t need to pass new legislation and that Biden ought to simply take executive action to fix it. Some have openly admitted they don’t want to give Biden a victory ahead of the November presidential election by letting him take off the table an issue on which he rates poorly among the electorate.
Just disgusting. Completely, utterly and horribly disgusting. Even worse is the fact that if the bill doesn’t pass all the rightwing talking heads and every single politician will use it as a stumping point. Especially if Biden takes executive action at the border they’ll say it’s because he couldn’t make a deal, even though he did.
May bees and wasps find their genitals in need of stinging.
Just wasps, no need for bees to be harmed in the process.
Fret not, only some bee species will die after stinging; it just depends on their stinger shape. Bumblebees have smooth stingers, so they could happily pierce nutsack all day without any harm coming to them.
They lose that exchange of wits.
Bidens just got to show open hands and say, we gave you the concessions you asked for, i said id close the border that day, i was ready to close the border and you said no, choosing politicking over security.
And then spit a fat wad of chew spit in Ted Cruz’s face.
He’d win reelection right there.
But the people voting against him don’t care about what makes sense
Yeah. Biden and the Democrats were literally proposing to close the border to asylum seekers completely until requests go down to get Ukraine aid, which is extreme to me but it was pretty much what Repubs were harping for for months.
To go and kiss Inmate #P01135809’s feet now is clear evidence they’re not even trying to solve the problem they were drumming up a storm for, and Biden is more serious about the border than Inmate #P01135809.
to address the surge of migrants at the southern border
I’ve yet to see this claim substantiated. As far as I can tell the border “crisis” is entirely fabricated by republicans…and I guess embraced by democrats now.
Crisis is a pretty flimsy term to begin with. I think it meets “crisis” definition just based on the pictures of the camps on the other side of the checkpoints. Based on the ridiculous appointment/app system. The backlog.
I think it’s a crisis. The ridiculous idea is that this is a crisis caused by immigration. It’s not. It’s a crisis caused by cruelty and incompetence on OUR part. The immigrants have, by and large, done nothing wrong.
Our own unwillingness to invest in the bureaucracy of legal immigration (which includes nearly all southern border immigration – refugee is a legitimate immigration status and refugees are not “illegals” even if you care about that kind of thing) has caused it. We just can’t manage the number of people coming in. And that unwillingness and inability to process the immigrants has CAUSED the crisis.
We could handle it. We could send reservists and national guard to get down there and process paperwork. Organize the logistics of bussing and all that. And longer-term, we could also invest in that bureaucracy. We know – and should fucking pray – that immigration will not stop any time soon. We know this is a service the government is going to need to provide for the long haul. We can’t keep pretending the border is a thing we can shut down – not to even mention how ridiculously good for the economy population growth through immigration is. How massive the ROI is for these kinds of services.
We could also set up single payer healthcare, sweepingly reform housing policy, pass a new and updated NLRA, and so many things that would ultimately make this a stronger, better country and improve things for everyone. But the right-wingers prefer suffering and cruelty to progress, and the progressives we have are too busy fighting among themselves and trying to compromise with uncompromising psychopaths to get anything done.
I agree with almost every word you said, but I think you’re wildly underestimating the problems.
We’re looking at an additional 3,141,000 souls coming in 2024 (my extrapolation based on current numbers), and that’s only from the Southern border. That’s more people than live in our 3rd largest city (Chicago)! That’s a stunning number, and significantly up from previous years.
Let’s pretend we let every human in from the Southern border, everyone, no exceptions. And let’s pretend we had our shit perfectly together in 2021, everything running smooth. Could we have ramped up to an additional 1,407,000 immigrants from 2021 to 2024?
Adding another “Chicago+” worth of souls, in a single year, is not a simple matter of political will and throwing money at the problem.
tl;dr: Whether we stop or encourage immigration, we got a humanitarian crisis on our hands.
Climate change is going to make it much much worse. Once Mexico and Central America experiences a couple wet bulb days then it’ll be an actual migration.
We can’t stop 200million. We can’t stop .0005% of that if it all came at once. For the love of God bullets can NOT be the answer to that.
Bullets are America’s answer for everything I’m afraid.
The only thing I’ve seen is people posting numbers showing how many more arrests the border patrol is making compared to years past. I’ve yet to see anything saying how more arrests means they’re doing a worse job.
Substantiation, here ya go:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-encounters
If we extrapolate the numbers from the current year-to-date, we’re looking at an additional 666,000+ migrants for 2024 vs. 2023 (3,141K vs. 2,475K). Also, note the Nov.-Dec. spike in the first graph.
Our government, society and infrastructure is not geared to take that many people that fast. It’s already a humanitarian crisis and it’s getting worse by the minute. We cannot take a major American city worth of people every year, we just can’t. Hell are we to do with an extra 3M+ souls?!
And keep in mind, we’re only looking at Southern border crossings. Plenty of immigrants coming from other quarters, including my wife, and hopefully soon, her son.
I suspect everyone is hauling ass to American ahead of a possible Trump win. Wouldn’t you? I’d sure as hell get my family in as fast as I could.
I suspect everyone is hauling ass to American ahead of a possible Trump win. Wouldn’t you?
I strongly suspect, and think any history would confirm, that most immigrants don’t think much at all about internal US politics/policies when making the decisions to abandon their entire lives and flee to this country.
Maybe once faced with the brutality at the border they’ll start to get interested, but on the whole? No way, I just don’t buy it. We do not control the conditions that cause people to want to flee their homes, but they are not making that decision so lightly.
You honestly think they’re clueless about American politics on a macro level? Maybe they are, but how else would you explain the surge at the border? Perhaps there’s new/sudden unrest in our Southern neighbors I’m ignorant of?
Maybe they are, but how else would you explain the surge at the border?
Easy peasy! There isn’t. I don’t trust the CBP numbers in the slightest.
“I don’t believe in gOvERnMenT numbers I don’t like! I don’t believe the CDC! Masks and vaccines are boolshit!”
Take that conservative thinking back to FB. Adults are talking.
and I guess embraced by democrats now.
Its almost as if they have a complete inability to craft a narrative of their own…
Republicans after just being let outside…
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