Apple refuses to relax its iron grip on iPhones in Europe::As its walled garden crumbles, Apple grudgingly allows EU users to sideload applications. Will regulators take stiffer action, and what about the US?

  • hemmes@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It’s funny, I buy Apple products specifically so that that I can’t side load apps. At work we MDM and Apple’s approach isn’t for everyone, but forcing something like side loading simply isn’t the right choice for all types of users.

    I’m all for encouraging them to be on the right side of Right-to-Repair, labor laws, and environmental best practices. But I left the world of side-loading and customization for the iPhone’s tight lockdowns. At first I still couldn’t help myself but to jail-break my first iPhone or two, then I stoped that also.

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      10 months ago

      They are not forcing you to use side-loading. You can just keep using the app store like you have been, but now you at least get a choice.

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        10 months ago

        Right but in my line of business I don’t want it to even be possible. I already made my choice purchasing an iPhone knowing full well I’m locked into the AppStore and my MDM catalog. If I can sideload so can a nefarious actor.

        • MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          What makes you think mechanism that is used to install applications from Apple store can’t be equally exploited as the mechanism that’s used to install applications from a file? It’s the same mechanism.

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            10 months ago

            I’m not saying it can’t, but the attack surface is significantly reduced.

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              10 months ago

              I disagree. If anything Apple failing to detect new kind of malware and approving malicious application is easier route. Simply because people see the description and trust the source infinitely and click install.

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          10 months ago

          I can understand your concerns, at work we can do BYOD for phones and the process for MDM on Android phones are much more complex and invasive simply due to the fact that you can install apps on Android via sideloading.

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      10 months ago

      It’s funny, I buy Apple Car specifically so that that I can’t decide where I want to go. At work we MDM and Apple’s approach isn’t for everyone, but forcing something like choosing their destination simply isn’t the right choice for all types of users.

      I’m all for encouraging them to be on the right side of Right-to-Repair, labor laws, and environmental best practices. But I left the world of thinking where I want to go and choice for the Apple Car’s tight lockdowns. At first I still couldn’t help myself but to try to go around wherever I wanted with my first Apple Car or two, then I stoped that also.

      Apple Car’s filtered possible destinations are all I need, so I don’t see why anyone would ever want to go any other place.

      • hemmes@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Bruh…lol

        I just like what I like. I knew I was gonna get shit for chatting about it.

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          10 months ago

          I do silly things on the internet. I tried to install leechblock so I can get most of the internet blocked, that way I don’t get to procrastinate. Unfortunately it is ineffective as I can easily go around it.

          I wish I had my own internet without procrastination material. A place with a tremendously big ecosystem of a billion people and not a single way to access things I deem problematic for me, because if they exist I might want to access them and I don’t want that.

    • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      Honestly I agree. If you want sideloading, here’s the great thing about competition, you can go with a competitor that allows that.

      I regularly swap between iPhone and various androids specifically because I want different things sometimes. I don’t want iPhone’s niche to get screwed up - one of their biggest selling points is their tailor made walled garden experience. It’s sure as hell not for everyone, but for those that like it, it’s fantastic.

      And for the record, I say all this as someone who usually goes with Android.

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        10 months ago

        Switching platform isn’t great when you lose access to all of the apps that were bought for the previous one. There’s a big incentive to not switch.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah, same for me. I have an android also. But I don’t put corporate data on that, it’s to test various scenarios or using a very specific app for field tasks.