• filoria@lemmy.mlOP
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    11 months ago

    American lunar capabilities have atrophied while India and China are speeding ahead. The last controlled American moon landing (crewed or uncrewed) was Apollo 17. In 1972.

    And people believe that Artemis 3 will happen next year

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      Atrophied…? It’s a private company that NASA helped fund to help develop their own, independent capabilities. The private sector is always less careful, this should not be surprising.

      There’s a whole different private American company launching their own attempt next month or something.

      There’s more lenses to look through asides the lens of nationalism.

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        A government-funded project, carrying a government-funded payload, launched by a government-funded rocket.

        bUt ItS pRiVaTe

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          So by that logic, if the government charters a bus to carry some government scientists and their government-funded research projects to a conference that the government has partially funded, and the bus crashes on the way to the conference, then the government is responsible for the bad brakes on the bus? How does that make sense?

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            The government has given at least one direct or indirect subsidy to OP, so therefore anything OP does wrong can be blamed on the government! Hooray!

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            If the bus manufacturer and bus operator is funded by the government, absolutely.

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            Yeah because the government is responsible for road saftey…

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          Put some in front of each of those for actual accuracy. NASA does have projects it exclusively funds and controls.

          Those are not without failure either, of course, the Challenger disaster being a classic example. Details are important, at any rate.

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          More whaling for capital. “Won’t someone think of the shareholders!”

          The part that broke was built by a private company that took taxpayer dollars soo…. Seems like the free market is what failed here

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          Yes, yes it is pRiVaTe. Any other non logical statements you want to make?

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      11 months ago

      Lol dude NASA has been landing on mars in that time, not sitting at home

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      It wasn’t a NASA lander, it was an Astrobotic lander. NASA has been busy with Mars landings. The whole point of CLPS is to get cheaper missions by doing less micromanaging. We’ll see how Intuitive Machines does next.

      I don’t think anyone even moderately informed has though a 2025 Artemis 3 landing is realistic for years at this point. It sounds like the official delay announcement is coming soon.

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      This isn’t NASA, it’s a private company completely unrelated in anyway to the Artemis projects success chances. NASA meanwhile, has a great track record for landing stuff on mars, which is much harder

      That being said, no one who is actually following the Artemis project believes Artemis 3 will happen next year, we all know 2026 is the earliest it’ll be at this point.

      ETA: Annnddd it’s official, Artemis 2 delayed to 2025, Artemis 3 delayed to 2026.