14°C = 57°F

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    My best Christmas ever was in Belgium. We were supposed to go to Germany for the day to visit distant relatives. A blizzard closed everything and instead I got to stay in a bathrobe and read.

    Now I would have to go and pack a bathing costume. I am not a fan of climate change.

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      I won’t ever forget how cold it got here last Christmas in Appalachia.

      I closed the store for the 24th and 25th. When I came back the place was flooded because the heat stopped working and the pipes in the ceiling exploded. The entire store was flooded and I spent the day after Christmas pushing water out of the store.

      I had to take a heater and melt the ice to finish the job.

      What a nightmare.

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    My city is expecting the first rainy Christmas in recorded history. The Earth is so screwed.

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      It’s storming and 60 degrees where I live.

      It should be cold and snowing.

      I’m glad I never had kids. Can’t imagine how bad it’s going to be in a decade or two when the shit really hits the fan.

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      These are the temps in the notoriously cold Minnesota as well. I’m unsettled and upset.

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        Yup. I’m Northwest of you in Canada and I can see my lawn. I’m not supposed to see my lawn…

        (At least until March at the earliest. We have a little bit of snow but not much, most of it melted)

        • PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world
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          Same in Wisconsin, lawn is greener now in December than it was in June because we had a drought this summer. It’s really uncomfortable.

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      January and February is when it normally gets cold here.

      People like to pretend that Christmas was a time of snow and ice, but that’s pretty rare. Dickens wrote about them, but his childhood coincided with the coldest decade in over a century.

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        Lived in my city for 37 years. Never had a “brown Christmas” until this year. It has also been above freezing every day this winter. Not the norm.

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        Mate what? You typically see -3 to maybe 7C. It’s 13-14C today it seems. That’s not normal.

        The warmest Christmas in UK history is 15C. Yesterday was the hottest Christmas eve since 1997. We won’t know until tomorrow if today is the hottest Christmas on record.

        Quit your climate change denial bullshit.

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    I’m living on the south coast of Ireland.

    Normal temps this time of year should be between 0° and 10°C (32F to 50F)

    It hasn’t been less than 10°C all this week, it shows on my car on the way to work. Fucking scary how this is only the beginning and we are in no way prepared for this.

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    The infuriating part here is that there are still people the think climate change is a hoax, even though we see the first effects right here, right now. Last year was similar. I remember it being like 16 degrees on New Year’s Eve. Fucking madness…

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      a few years back in Sydney Australia it was 40 deg C Christmas eve and then 12 deg Christmas day. Absolutely crazy.

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      The first effects could be witnessed thirty years ago. But it’s becoming increasingly difficult to ignore. That’s why the fossil fuel industry has moved the goal posts and introduced the “climate change is of all times, it’s not caused by us” talking point, as demonstrated by Victor. But Victor is behind the times, the new one is “yes, we caused it but it’s not a big deal”.

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      I don’t think climate change is a hoax. But from what I hear the major cause for it being carbon dioxide alone is not really true. Now, I can’t remember what evidence there was, so please, a grain of salt. But I do trust the person who said it, so, when I have more time in life I intend to find out more. But it’s not like I can do anything to revert the misinformation at this point, should it turn out to be a hoax. The media has already cemented it, and any scientists going against the grain today will lose all credibility, because “the science is done” on this (even though that is very unscientific in and of itself).

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        That’s why no scientist ever said the cause is carbon dioxide alone. Anybody who says that to sow distrust in the scientific community is the one that is not trustworthy.

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          Yes, no, you’re right. What I meant to say was that the status quo is that carbon dioxide is the dominant cause for global warming.

          That’s what I’ve been shown not to be the case. My source has been plowing through a lot of scientific books and publications, which I have not, so this is only hearsay unfortunately.

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            I think people usually use the term “Greenhouse Gasses” because it’s an umbrella term for the other compounds like methane that do the same thing (except it doesn’t taste as good when dissolved in your soda).

            I hope your source is on this train of thought and not something about secret Nazi’s melting the ice caps to establish a base and awaken Mega-Hitler from his slumber.

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              I hope your source is on this train of thought and not something about secret Nazi’s melting the ice caps to establish a base and awaken Mega-Hitler from his slumber.

              No no no 😆 They are definitely of sound mind and going by scientific results only, peer reviewed shit. They have worked a lifetime in academia so would not compromise their own sources. That is why I trust them.

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        You don’t lose credibility for going against the grain, you become a superstar… You just have to have compelling evidence.

        All the cases I’ve seen of people who complain about this aren’t being ridiculed for ‘revealing the truth’, but for doing shoddy research and sticking by it.

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          Well that’s comforting.

          My source has definitely done proper research into the scientific results, bypassing all mass media. So I trust them for now. But obviously I have a lot of my own research to do.

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      That Polar Vortex tilting off the center, catches you by surprise and suddenly every road in North Dakota is closed for 5 days.

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    ? This makes no sense without further context. Where are you? Is this normal? Why is this infuriating?

    Are people really this self-centred they just assume everyone lives in the same place as then and should know? It’s 35 degrees celcius here in Australia, a temp of 14 degrees looks amazing to me.

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      Yeah, bad post.

      This is the current temp in south UK, been 14-15c last 2 days. Usually would be less than 0c now, often around -5 or lower in the past.

      First Christmas I’ve seen people going from car to shop/garage in t shirts

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        So is OP complaining because they think it’s too hot? Where I live, people would complain that this is too cold.

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    It is 20C where I am. I don’t remember it ever being over 5-10 in this area, during December. I’m still wearing shorts, while usually going outside without a thick hoodie and a scarf used to be a stupid idea.

    And on the flip side of that, the summer was so hot, that we all had to bunker inside, to avoid high humidity heat.

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        Not that 40+ is close to okay but I think I’d still be a little worried if you or op were having christmases like what we used to experience up here until like the late ‘00s

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          Yeah that’d be a bit worrisome I reckon lol. I do want to experience a cold Christmas someday tho

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      Yeah, we had 27 yesterday (Christmas eve) and light rain all day. Very uncomfortable for New Zealand. At least today is a tad cooler

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        Similar in the Capitol, unusual weather. It’s gonna get bad the next few years I reckon (assuming we get through this summer unscathed).

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      Not really how climate change works. While the average global temperature will trend higher, there will be colder and hotter seasons, each getting more extreme as they go back and forth. There will be hotter heat waves and colder cold snaps.

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        Wanna know a fun fact?

        Air conditioning stops working effectively around 120F and decreases in efficiency as it gets hotter because the condenser cannot effectively discharge heat into the air.

        Freshwater sources are drying up worldwide with absolute proof and nobody cares.

        Take a serious look at moving somewhere moderate. The ultra wealthy are all building fortified compounds in the Michigan peninsula. Why?

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          It’s possible to engineer a condenser that outputs 60-80°C using exotic gases/coolant blends, but you’re right, the standard residential A/C is going to be operating at around 48°C.

      • PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works
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        Oh, of course, no doubt! I’m a child if late middle 80’s, growing up in a western coast in Norway. There was always snow during winter. The last 15 years has shown MAYBE a day or two of snow, then warmer again.

        And then we had the sudden cold for a couple of weeks, which postponed the construction of a new parking lot with about two months due to the frost in the ground (there was something like a sudden 2-3 weeks of -10 Celsius).

        Then we have the summer of 18 in Europe. Even Norway was so dry everything turned yellow.

        It happens, but I do think that in some climates, like Norway, it’ll mostly get warmer with the freak occurrence of cold/heat (depending on the season). My previous comment is for the general term, not to be taken literally.

        And thank you! I’ve missed having a constructive discussions on the internet. Happy holidays!

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    Had a discussion with the wife about the last winter. That there will be a last winter with meaningfully cold temperatures was something that she had not considered at all.

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        Its complicated day to day but it’s not that complicated. We have a giant heat sink in the form of the arctic ocean. Once its ice free I expect freezing temperatures to be rare. There will be a point where this area(north west north america) no longer sees the 80 degree C swings in temperature that it has seen historically. Expectation is closing the temperature gap biased high.

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          Yeah, no. It’s much more complicated. If e.g. the gulf stream changes significantly winters in Europe might get much colder. It is not as easy as Hollywood movies portray it.

          Globally we will have warmer temperatures, that much seems to be pretty much confirmed. But locally the results will vary very much.

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            You may have missed the point. Even if the haline circulation is over turned with fresh water, Europe will still trend warmer on a wider delta and different places will see an increase in seasonal delta but as it stands there will be a last winter for everywhere. Full stop. It is a time horizon question that remains.

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              I’m not sure I’ve Δ’d my opinion on that.

              It remains to be seen if global temperature will eventually max out (likely after a major population decline) or if we’re headed in the direction of Venus, where the planet just gets turbo-fucked beyond the ability to retain any life.