• DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hmm, how about that ceasefire that was ongoing until October 7th? That’s not even to mention the number of ways Hamas broke the current ceasefire that Israel let slide.

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      1 year ago

      You realize Gaza has been an open-air prison the whole time right? And you’re trying to deny the natives’ right to fight back against colonizers and settlers?

      Theodor Herzl, founder of Zionism, was just a racist colonizer, and saw it as bringing ‘civilization’ to ‘barbarians’ as the rest of Europe did when they were colonizing and enslaving Africa and Asia:

      “We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” Source [II]

      That is exactly what’s happening right now. All for European and US military and economic interests in the region; for their ruling class of capitalist corporations at least. Israel is literally a modern western colony committing genocide on natives.

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        That is exactly what’s happening right now.

        you know well enough that your small excerpt of literature from 150 years ago is not manifesting itself today. if that would be a thing, let’s make it happen with the Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei.

        speaking of open-air prison, what’s your verdict on West-Berlin’s situation between 1961 and 1989 then? and how did Hamas and others get such an arsenal of weaponry into a prison?

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          is not manifesting itself today

          Are you blind? US sending billions of dollars to Israeli military so they can colonize Palestine and kill and displace hundreds of thousands of natives isn’t enough for you? Does Joe Biden himself have to spell it out for you?

          what’s your verdict on West-Berlin’s situation between 1961 and 1989 then?

          What the fuck does a 30 year period where 140 people died in Berlin in confrontations between the US and GDR have to do with this?

          US involvement? If that’s your point, you could bring up the Vietnam or Iraq wars where US invasions left 60k and 300k civilians dead respectively. The Berlin situation isn’t even comparable to the rest of the shit the US and Europe are responsible for.

          But sure, the GDR should’ve just let the US and FRG keep using West Berlin as a base of operations for spying on and sabotaging the Eastern Bloc. Even knowing how that ends.

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            1 year ago

            Are you blind?

            yeah, the screenreader is fine.

            Does Joe Biden himself have to spell it out for you?

            as a user of ad-blockers i can’t check your source. but i doubt that he proposes any of your allegations.

            btw, what fate do you have in mind for “native” jews and all those who had only one place to seek refuge when they were persecuted in Europe, Northern Africa, the Arab countries and Iran?

            What the fuck does a 30 year period where 140 people died in Berlin in confrontations between the US and GDR have to do with this?

            my idea was to point out the fact that an exclave is anything but a prison. but any allegory, be it as stupid as this one, is thankfully repeated by the couch fighters for the Palestinian cause.

            Even knowing how that ends.

            nah, we’d have kicked them asses to then burn in the eternal flames of the last war.

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              yeah, the screenreader is fine.

              Clearly not.

              i can’t check your source. but i doubt

              Yeah go fuck yourself lol