Like, why does a gym attract so many dickheads. I’m just there minding my own damn business when I overhear dudes talking about how they are ‘going to get so much pussy for lifting’ and whatever dumb shit. It’s a constant stream of male garbage coming from all around you. My fault for not wearing headphones I guess.
Is that why you lift? Really? Are most gym bros just terminally insecure man children? Fucking hell man. Who unironically talks like that? I know I’m probably in a bubble as a sober, vegan communist but still.
I don’t go to the gym or fly to socialize. Me wearing headphones shouldn’t perturb you as much as it appears to, no matter how much you protest that it doesn’t. You wrote a lot of words for one who doesn’t care.
I couldn’t give a damn what you do with or without your headphones on, having an attitude that humans in general are stupid is where you lose me, using a lot of words does not change that. Why are you even on a forum connecting communists if you do not believe in the capability of a collective human race? You sound like a maladapted freak
Why are you being a jerk to some internet stranger? Your thread reads more like a you-problem that you’re projecting on others.
I just cannot jive with someone who thinks that human beings as a species are stupid, point-blank. That is a useful (incorrect) excuse to sweep away the consequences of real systemic choices made by pro-capitalist governments of the past and present, which have brought us into this position we are in. On this same comment fork, I respond to the binary person on why there is a distinction between talking about gym goers in the western sphere of influence and humanity…
The intensity of your reaction seems overblown.
Sure, there are larger, systemic forces at work that have led the world to this point, but it can also be fairly argued that the average human is…average. Our leaps and bounds of progress are generally only found by aggregating the work of the entire species, over lifetimes of toil.
What about that bothers you so much? You respond like it was something deeply personal, and not a generalization, or reflection of our current society. Moreover, you just seem angry. Which is off-putting.
I fully agree with your first paragraph, and it is because of that I just cannot stand overblown reductive generalisations on humanities’ capacity to change. Not appreciating the fact that the way the west operates economically/socially/politically aren’t set in stone is why we are in this mess in the first place. It has nothing to do with humanities averageness. It’s rot, society hasn’t helped foster what we believe it should, otherwise all kids would be well-educated. Yanno, flowers can still grow in a crack of concrete, but we cannot expect a forest while there’s a city on top.
Plus I just can’t stand people on the internet being full of themselves, so I call it out when I have time to kill. I can learn something about myself when I reflect on the way the west, through patriarchy, has ruined a large amount of a generation of men. I can’t do shit but think I’m hot stuff if I think humanity is stupid. It helps noone. I’ve seen it in person and online, and I hate people who believe it and what they do/don’t do. And to still do so this far into the wests social rot is worth calling out, which is why I went at binary person
Super valid, I think I’m going to log off now
But it was okay for OP to dismiss male gym goers as being stupid based on one coversation. Interesting logic that.
Making sweeping declarations for the capacity about the majority of humanity is not the same as observing a trend within arguably the most propagandised subset of western society. One makes you, a self aggrandising loser, seem up your ass, and the other is an interesting phenomenon worth talking about.
Since 2016 definitely, but even before, the billionaire class has invested in pipelining young insecure boys/men who are interested in fitness into an adjacent form of purity culture. As a result, lots of those people are very rigid, from diet to their political beliefs, which tends to lean right wing. See Joe Rogan/Andrew Tate and their audiences.
Also, words and beliefs harbour the capacity to bring reality to them, if I drop to your level and believe most humans are too stupid (instead of intentionally undereducated, and fostered in a culture not designed for individual growth by its government) I will stop bothering to care and try to help bring change. You might not admit it, but everyone else sees you as a cancer. So fuck off you loser. Go fly or something
It isn’t an interesting phenomenon, it’s just wrong. Gym goers are no more stupid than the bulk of humanity.
Good luck with bringing about change.