Trump is winning all these states and look at the percentages. How?

Edit: many news agency are calling PA for Trump. So we are truly fucked.

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    The pandemic wasn’t that long ago, that experience settled any debate as to how ill informed the average citizen is. Most of the people voting are actively working against their own interests. There is a minority who benefit from the bad policy, the majority inevitably suffer. That has been the state of affairs since (at least) the Reagan era.

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      Every antivaxer knows the Science shows vaccines work, they just refuse to accept science, and claim it’s a conspiracy, because they are religious fanatics, that refuse to accept anything that counter their religion.
      I’ve claimed for 20 years that USA as a nation is mentally ill. They celebrate individualism and freedom to a point where sociopathy has become a virtue, because zero moral standards means ultimate freedom. Then they replace their lack of moral standards with arbitrary pseudo moral standards from the bible.
      That’s the problem, not that they are uninformed.

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        Every antivaxer knows the Science shows vaccines work

        Having debated a couple who are quite intelligent otherwise, I’m going to have to dispute that.

        Sure, they know broadly that exposing the immune system to something that looks like a pathogen primes it to respond to that pathogen in the future, but they tend to be way off on the implications. I’ve heard it suggested that too many vaccines cause people to run out of immune memory. I’ve heard that all antibodies cause inflammation. I’ve heard that previous attempts to produce coronavirus vaccines killed the majority of test subjects years later.

        None of those claims are true, and the only way they could be true is if everyone in the field of immunology is lying all the time.

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          Sure, they know broadly

          I never said they know how, but they know the scientists know, but they won’t acknowledge science for the reasons I mentioned.
          Every single one of these idiots have been presented with the basic facts, and know them, they simply won’t accept facts over their beliefs.

          The point is they have been INFORMED. So they you can’t call them uninformed.
          But you can call them ignorant because they CHOOSE to IGNORE facts.