Not saying I disagree with you but you can imagine how strongly I feel about snaps being utter garbage then ;-)

Yeah, much as I really really love Fedora, I think the new RHEL source policies are going to hurt the Red Hat brand more than help it… I think Debian and Suse stand to benefit more from this than RH.

Also, I see most articles/people talking about this in terms of Alma and Rocky and I’m sure that’s part of it but does anyone else get the sense that this was more aimed at Oracle Linux to gtfo their asses and make their own shit? Nothing to back that up, was just my own gut feeling and curious what others think.

Edit: thought I’d add some context… just in case some of you haven’t been keeping up with the news, referring to this:

Phoronix: Red Hat Now Limiting RHEL Sources To CentOS Stream

Also related:

Rocky Linux Shares How They May Continue To Obtain The RHEL Source Code

Ah my bad then. I really hated new reddit so I avoided it like the plague. Haven’t really been on there since either.

I don’t think that really justifies a lot of the comments I’m seeing in Reddit alternatives threads that it’s hard to figure out.

Haven’t been back there and didn’t read the comments…

But I think I can understand to a degree:

• Too many choices: Picking an instance can be confusing for folks that are used to only having to remember 1 name. I personally think this is a bit like people trying Linux for the first time and getting confused by all the choices available. Basically, it’s what some people call “analysis paralysis” but add to that the fact that you’ll get 12 different recommendations from every 10 people you all (e.g. there’s no clear consensus on the “best” one bc “best” means something different to each person). I think one list I saw on GitHub literally had over 200 instances… For non-techies, I could see that being a bit confusing
• UI differences: some things like making a post on kbin are a bit different (IMO not bad but still different enough that I could see some folks getting confused). Doing searches on lemmy for specific topics (not finding communities but searching for something in a community) is done from a different area on lemmy than on Reddit and IMO is kind of a pain in the ass currently. And on kbin, frankly, I’m not even sure we have that feature at all.
• Missing features: haven’t tried mobile apps (which could again be another point of confusion) but for desktop at least, AFAIK we don’t have anything comparable to RES yet. There’s no analog to multireddits. And we don’t have anything similar to reddit’s Saved feature yet. All valid complaints in my opinion. And someone used to any or all of those, might spend a lot of time looking bc they just don’t know if it’s hidden or does not exist. So, yeah, I could see so confusion there too.

I think there are a lot of advantages they’re probably missing too. I like that kbin/lemmy we can choose whatever fucking avatar we want instead of being limited to customizing our snoz or wtf Reddit calls their mascot thing. I saw one guy mentioning how there’s no karma bullshit to deal with for new accounts and absolutely agree with that sentiment.

tealdeer; meh, I like the fediverse and it’s not hard for me but I’m not shitting on people who don’t get it. If they want help, would probably help but not going to push it on people either. It is what it is and that’s good enough for me

That said, if distros included default .vimrc files that were geared more towards modern newbies (since us old farts can probably figure out how to customize things easier than they can)… probably, we wouldn’t hear about so many newer Linux users preferring nano

I think this would mostly only really impact a select few who are trying to do a fresh install with 6.3 kernel, as very few live discs use proprietary drivers during install (is it only PopOS that does that?). Even then most mainstream distros wouldn’t have had live discs with 6.3 (Fedora 38 did not and I’m guessing all Debian based ones had an older kernel). Not sure about Arch and OpenSUSE tho

Anyway, the good news is that there’s already a patch for this out with 6.4 so even those handful that would have been affected should be fine now:

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Nouveau-Use-After-Free-Fixed

Exactly. The ask is about user convenience and functionality rather than mirroring Reddit. If there was a better way, I am not at all opposed to that as long as I retain the ability to make what amounts to my own curated, personal feeds.

And I agree, even just being able to pin/favorite mags in-app (currently relying on Firefox bookmarks lol) would be a great add and one that should probably come before my ask

I think that is probably part of a bigger discussion. For the scope of what I was asking, consider it as only a more advanced “view” functionality (in the database sense) that allows displaying results from a specific subset of magazines.

I actually think it would be really cool if such a view worked with federation, as that would allow for things such as having similar magazines/communities/whatever mastodon calls their subreddit equivalent from multiple sources displayed in a single feed (e.g. say one or more lemmy linux communities and kbin Linux communities)… as a single url the user could bookmark as simply “Linux”.

For now though, I would be thrilled to even have this ability for local magazines

• /d = domain (e.g. so for the lemmygrad.ml domain, you’d use https://kbin.social/d/lemmygrad.ml )

And then there is a block button in the right side panel, next to the Subscribe link. At least, for desktop…

For mobile (even in “desktop site” view), it seems to appear beneath the list of posts/etc rather than as a right side panel. Just use find-in-page and search for “Subscribe”; should be right next to that.

Agreed. Indexing helps a LOT for discovery both of new content and old answers alike … Would love to see kbin start showing up in search results instead of Reddit when trying to find answers to technical issues…

Meme is just a repost so I’m not offended or anything (not that I would be even if it was OC)… but are you maybe seeing “centralization” in the sense of “popularity” instead of “control”? (I agree that the choice of words in the meme could have been better…) - Anyway, even if you are, no worries. I was just curious.

I think the original creator was probably more pointing out how with snap, it is next to impossible to create another app store because the source code for the backend is closed source.

While with flatpak it is fully open-source so anyone who wishes to create a new store can do so. Yes, fighting against what’s popular has always been an uphill battle and that would be the case here also. But there would be no technological or legal roadblocks to doing so.

At least, that’s how I understood it

Disclaimer: I generally prefer native packages over flatpaks/appimages myself. I pretty much refuse to even consider using snaps, for variety of reasons, unless they both open-source the backend code and make some other changes to address other pet peeves I have with the project. I’m not holding my breath though.

Discord seems like its gonna be the true reddit successor.

Not disagreeing that the masses will likely flock to it due to brand recognition and such …

But man does that make me sad too… Really hate how locked down Discord is in comparison (like you can’t even browse content without a login and using from the browser is painful compared to using a client). Add in their past (and possibly present) privacy issues and the fact that like Reddit, they are also a centralized site run by another greedy company and I feel like this is yet another recipe for disaster (albeit one that might take awhile to fully materialize)

Not the same guy

And I’m not saying any of these are worthy of going Fedora proper vs Nobara… that’s going to be a personal call for each person I think. I think they’re both good but here are some differences I’ve noticed (not a complete list by any means):

• Nobara updates are a bit behind Fedora’s.
• Nobara switched away from Fedora’s Anaconda installer to Calamares. For many, this is probably a welcome change. For me, it very much was NOT bc Calamares, despite possibly being more intuitive for some, currently does not support all of the same functionality that Anaconda does. For instance, I prefer the Fedora style FDE partitioning scheme (ESP partition + unencrypted ext4 /boot partition + LUKS version 2 volume with /) as well as putting my installs in custom BTRFS subvol’s… Neither of which was supported by Calamares as of 6 months ago when I last checked. Talking about graphical options only for both installers, though if someone knows how to specify it anyway from Calamares, I would be interested.
• Nobara switched to AppArmor recently. For most, this is probably easier than SELinux. And I think it is great that AppArmor is being supported in Nobara. TBH, I wish it were an option in Fedora too despite the fact that I personally would likely continue to use SELinux - but I am just generally in favor of more options.
• Nobara pushes Wayland a lot more than Fedora does. Sure, it is the default in Fedora Workstation (as well as the KDE spin). But if you are in one of those use-cases that isn’t quite ready yet (typically people who either prefer a certain desktop like Cinnamon/Mate, have nvidia cards, and/or have some need for certain x11 windowing tools that don’t have mature replacements yet), then Nobara might be a tougher jump at present

I can’t help but shake the feeling the author dismissed Flatpak from the get-go because it was not was the author wants.

Fair. But at least he’s not trying to sell us on snaps lol

Just created /m/linuxquestions

https://kbin.social/m/linuxmasterrace